Prophet

I’m in as well should you release some. -P.

I just picked up a Kel-Tec PMR-30 in February. It shoots rimmed .22 WMR. The double stack magazines have fed the rimmed cartridges flawlessly through a case of 1000 rounds. Slow or rapid fire, no hiccups. A closer look at this design, with 12-gauge shells in mind, may shed some beneficial tips on what could be applied to the S-12 app. -P.

Tony! Caught your big Hollywood (okay, Bayou Hollywood) debut. Damn, you were quieter than I expected. Good show. -Pete

Good luck and a speedy recovery. -P.

I've seen it at Barnes & Noble, Hudson News, and maybe Borders? I've been subscribing steadily for over 10 years and keep the issues for reference purposes. Hey Jeff, not to hijack the thread, but do you offer the option for multiple issues on CD-ROM? Maybe allow monthly subscribers to get the media at the end of their 1, 2, or 3-year subscripions? Keeping the paper issues sure is bulky. -P.

Just came home from overseas last night and stopped by the local US Post Office to pick up my mound of mail. First item on top was my just-delivered copy of SAR with the Tromix S-17 on the cover. They devoted the center spread to the S-17 and wrote a nicely flattering article...as if the cat wasn't out of the bag already. Congrats to Tony and the Tromix Crew. -P.

Old thread, but I just came across it and I have an answer to the original question... IIRC, back in 2005 or so, I asked Hans Vang about getting done to one of my Saiga-12s. The OE barrels are too thin walled to be done successfully and he wont do 'em. He has tried on his own. If these new barrels are of thicker construction and more consistent/higher quality, he may be able to do them. FWIW. -P.

BUMP Is this thread dead for a drum/stick magazine-compatible magwell? -P.

To my knowledge, the Saiga-12 has not been friendly towards the practice of having having a bunch of magazines and a bunch of different rifles, and being able to grab any mag and any weapon and have a reliable mating of the two. Mags often had to be fitted to individual weapons. Does the magwell make the Saiga-12 more flexible to this mix & match practice? -P.

Just received my Sept. '08 Small Arms Review in the mail and they cover the 2008 International Trade Fair for Hunting and Sporting Arms, Outdoor Articles and Accessories (whew!) held in Nurnberg, Germany, March 14-17, 2008. Page 28. The single pic (no narrative) looks like the latest iteration of the Saiga-12 SWAT model, with a 17" barrel, flash hider, Krink-style front sight/gas block and hinged top cover, mag well, ribbed 8-round mag, and TDI front furnature with M-1913-style rails. No indication that it will see stateside distribution, but it does show a willing attitude to genera

Yep, I just lodged a BBB complaint against the folks at Wraithfaker. Thanks for the lead, good looking out. -P.

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Well if it make double taps with full power slugs a reasonably accurate and enjoyable experience, then it's a winner. If you can keep select-fire S-12 on a man-sized target at full chat, it's worth it's weight in gold. Just looking at some of the video clips, operating a full-auto S-12 requires some technique to be useable, and not intimidating. -P.

There is one sitting in Tony's office right now awaiting installation on a new conversion. Feel free to install it on one of your select-fire SBRs. I'm curious to see if it becomes more controllable at full speed. -P.

Would this trigger mod not be recommended for a defensive or law enforcement application? Also, am I understanding it correctly that the mod just removes the additional play/travel after the trigger drops the hammer, and the trigger moves to the rear of the trigger guard on the follow through? Thus, it allows for a faster reset and follow-up shot? -P.

I wouldn't be suprised to see a 200-rnd M249 SAW pouch fit. I have one lying around here, now if I can just get a hold of a drum... -P.

Cobra, Message Sent. Prophet06 OUT

IF Magpul could sell it to us CIVILIANS. Which they CANNOT. Then yes. I'd buy it because it doesn't look like a gun closed. That could be fun back home in semi-liberal ass Minnesota where I'm originally from. That shit would ALWAYS be in my car. ALWAYS. And only if I could use it with a Glock 18( Which I CANNOT own). Or a Glock 17 adaptor/full auto( Which I CANNOT own) So. Yes. But It won't ever happen anyway. Because none of the planned ideas could I own. Post Dealer Sample....fucking ghey rule to keep modern NFA weapons out of our hands. Even with proper background/paperwork/mo

I'm sure the Aimpoint is great, but I have issues paying more for the optic than the weapon (it's a shotgun, afterall). Precise < 1.5 MOA red dots are not necessary here. The bullet drop cam and ranging circle on the PK-AS seem like great features for slugs and shot respectively. +1 on the optics choice but I have issues with your logic on selection criteria. After trying the EoTech 552.A65 and Aimpoint Comp M2, I settled on the Aimpoint Micro T-1. 4.0 MOA, super light weight (3.7 oz), low profile, and durable. I've always been of the mindset that you should expect to s

I don't know why it really matters if there was a drum or not. Can't find one now, but the market is providing a solution for it's absence. The only thing my memory proves, is that I had too much time on my hands at that young age, and I should have spent more time getting busy with my girlfriend than reading crappy buff magazines. Sad, isn't it? -P.

Back in, oh, lets say 1998 (pure guess, could have been 2000) there was a magazine article that covered the EAA Saiga-12 shotguns. I believe it was one of the Special Weapons for Law Enforcement magazines or such other advert-mags from the same publisher. Anyway, IIRC, the S-12 was reviewed in its S-12C format. The article showcased FACTORY 8-round mags and a 20-round drum. I can somewhat remember a Metro Dade Police car in the pics. Had a favorable review. When the EAA website used to have a listing of Periodical reviews of the S-12, they didn't have a link to that article. I

Time for someone to come up with a QUALITY US-made receiver and start manufacturing 12g. parts. ...and if they pattern it off the Sig 55x-series, they may get some big LE contracts... -P.

The Man's got a way with words... But He's said it all... 'Nuff Said

Just wanted to wish the best to you and your families. -P.

With the 10-rounders being so long, could you make a shorter, double-stack magazine with the 12-gauge shells having a rim on the brass? -P.