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I want to keep my S12 able to easily go back to stock configuration and this stock seemed, and felt, like the best option. I really like it. Not about the money at all, Pablo, and I am confident I could do the conversion, I just do not want to. Thanks for the response. I am thinking about buying a second one eventually and converting one of the two but I always want one that is stock or easily switched back to stock. I took a factory handguard off of a 7.62X39 Saiga and Dremeled the crap out of it, drilled a new screw hole for it and put it on. I think it looks and feels great!

why is the ''our reliability service'' such a bad thing to advertise. is it these guns tend to break a lot or are they trying to say they do better quality work when they dont, or is it something else? i have put a lot of thought in doing it myself . but i would be buying some parts twice it seems if i do it then send it off later, and i dont have a lot of time to spend on projects although it wouldn't take that much time i think. i have looked at companies like tromix, red jacket firearms, e-tac, and just emailed cadiz gun works. Tromix is backed up. Thats my first choice. Tony referred me t

It is at the current bid price due to a lot of shill bidding. Notice that one guy has placed several bids, all on June 7, and the last bid falling just short of the reserve. Also, he has a whopping 1 rating for past bidding. So, it makes it appear that the shotgun has a lot of interest in the Gunbroker community and that it is worth at least $1,375.00. I hate that crap.

I voted for 24 inches because that is what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they drafted the Second Amendment, when they wanted to preserve our rights to go duck huntin' on the weekends. But seriously, I like the 19" for the versatility, and not having to mess with gas port modifications with the shorter barrels. Also, less muzzle flash, and a little better muzzle velocity than you get with the shorter barrels. I really don't think I will be using mine for much Close Quarters Combat action. so having the really short barrel is not a priority for me.

My personal opinion is that it looks like crap. However, I will admit that it is a VERY effective camo job. Looking at the picture, I had a hard time discerning the outline and component parts of the gun. People will think you are shooting a zebra at them.

Something tells me this Saiga will be re-listed several times, and will not be sold. At least not if he keeps that price on it. For $1,400.00 I would expect a TIG welded rear Tromix plate; an Ace or Tromix folder stock; and the extra, unused old FCG holes TIG welded and finished. $10.00 says he got tired of screwing with the gun after he ran some steel wool and Naval jelly, or even fine grit sandpaper over it, and decided to not finish it right. He got so far, cleaned it, and just clear-coated it. That IS NOT a distressed look. It is a "I got too lazy to finish it right, and decided

Actually, this is what I've considered for my too-long S12: cut down and thread to the standard 19" length (via gunsmith -- this exceeds my skillz). Since this is longer than 'sawed-off shotgun' length even without brake, I presume that there are no legal issues involved, right? Other than maybre 922r, and I'm taking care of that in other ways. Just want to make sure. Yeah, yeah: gas ports: I know. :-) No legal issues. Cut that barrel to your heart's desires! You could take a Sawzall to it yourself, if you were so inclined. You only run into problems if you cut the barrel short

I don't believe that you have to grind anything if you buy a FCG plate that's specifically for a S-12, like this one. (the bottom plate) My experience is that you will have to grind a little more off (into) the BHO to get the fire selector (safety) to install properly. I agree that the plate is better, but to be able to get the safety lever to be able to angle in, clear the BHO, and fit its end support pin into the hole of the FCG plate, you will need to grind a wee bit more into the BHO, than if you use the shephard's crook.

Just don't cut your rifle barrel shorter than 16". Also, be precise when cutting your barrels. If you eye-ball it and cut your shotgun barrel to 17.9" or your rifle barrel to 15.9", guess what? You now have a SBS or an SBR. The BATFE has no sense of humor and will heartlessly prosecute if they get the chance. It's just like driving over the speed limit. Yes, you can get a ticket for going 56 in a 55.

The hole I am referring to is not covered by the pistol grip in this photo. I see the guy who submitted the photo didn't weld up the other holes, either, though. jonblack There is no reason to leave that hole. If it is left, it is due to oversight. I had a friend TIG weld up all unessential holes except for those explicitly covered by the pistol grip. I then grounded and smoothed the welded holes down flush with the receiver.

My thinking is, if you are spending the money and the time to de-convert your Saiga to the pistol grip variety, go the extra few steps. Putting on the easy trigger guard is like going the extra steps to make a cake from scratch and then using a canned frosting to ice it. My personal tastes is for the square Kalashnikov trigger guard, so I bought a Bulgarian TG and the selector stop and the rivets. I kept all four holes in the front of the TG and selector stop and did not cut them back to two. I riveted the rear rivet and the rearward two rivets on the front of the TG. I then cut down the

Yes. I think it comes down to whether you like more angular designs (Tromix) vs. tubular(Ace) . Both are very fine.

Sights (Krebs, Dinzag, Tromix converted HK, etc) Foregrip (Tromix, Tapco, etc) Tromix flash hider Paint (DuraCoat, Norell's Molly Resin, Alumi Hyde, etc) Not to mention, 600 grit sandpaper and non-residue degreaser for painting prep.

I talked to a tech guy at one of the DuraCoat dealers and he emphasized that you want to degrease the gun BEFORE you start prepping the surface with sanding or sand blasting.