We have in inventory a pair of Saiga 12C shotguns that were ordered from Kalashnikov in 1999. They were ordered with a 14" barell to use for breaching. Unfortunately, Kalashnikov figured that we needed standoffs for that use and made the guns 14" including a 3 1/2 inch standoff. They have about an inch of real barell sticking out from under the handguard. The SWAT boys tried to make these things work when they first got them without any kind of success. After a little bit of work, mostly polishing everything, they seem to be close to 100%. I just took them to the range yesterday and test