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It's all economics. Lets assume that he gets them 100 at a time. If you put 100 of them on ebay, they would sell for around $30 each. If you put them on ebay one at a time, it would take a year to sell 100. If they weren't being made anymore, that would be what he would do. But they are being pumped out of a factory at the rate of 1000+ per day as we speak. I would be curious to know what his cost is on them. I would be surprised if it was over $20. So at $80 he is doing ok. Lets see, 100 mags per month at $60 profit each, thats 6 grrrrr per month.

And to think that I have been cutting rebar with a bolt cutter all this time.

If you want to "pick up" a few, it would be hard to do that in the U.S. but I have heard of a town called Ishvesk where they are quite plentiful. I don't know where it is, so you might have to look it up on a map: http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/Map...3BComprehensive Hope that helps.

If you like that one you are going to love this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...7141627280&rd=1 (Previous auction)

I don't know how much these other places charge, but in the Brownells catalog, there is a page of average gunsmith costs for basic standard work and it says that threading a barrel for chokes is around $100 to $125 for an unlined barrel. I understand that the chrome lining in the S12 barrel is much harder to thread and ream and is very hard on tools, so I am assuming that this is where the extra cost comes in.

I would think that you should have the tube be half full (half empty?) of mercury because the weight is helpful as the primary effect, and the sloshing around of it helps as a secondary effect to absorb the recoil. But I think that the piston one would be better because I wouldn't want anything sloshing around in my buttstock.

What about something like this? http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/Pro...+RECOIL+REDUCER Some kind of piston to absorb the enertia of the recoil. Some others have mercury in them. You could imbed one of these in the stock.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard that the Holosight might be too delicate to handle the forces of the 12 gauge recoil.

I've come up with an idea as to why this could be - not enough positive upward pressure by the follower of the NLFD. I've thought about shortening the length of the feed lips, to give it more "time" to pop up into the path of the bolt, but I'm reluctant to do this. I'll keep working and experimenting. 1st <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know that the earlier or first generation S12 mags did have shorter feed lips. Somebody posted a picture of them a few weeks back. The feed lip metal is a bent sheet metal piece that can be snapped off. Maybe you could find someone to trad

From Tapperman's research, it sounds to me like you can remove everything except the serial number. It could be argued that removing the model number would make a firearm harder to identify, but this would only be true when there are many similar firerarms with different model numbers like MAK 90, SLR 95, AK101 etc. In the case of the S12, I would think that you can tell what it is without seeing "S12" stamped on it. And the importer marking? That doesn't seem too important

i take it you're not a machinist. it's easier said than done. you're looking at hours of machine time and quite a bit of material. If it's as easy as you think, you can do it instead of calling someones work half assery. Caspian <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure that he meant "half assery" in a nice way.

When there is one 8 rounder on Ebay, it sells for $180, but if you put 5 of them on there they would go for a lot less. If you had 100 of these and you wanted to keep the price up, you would have to sell them one at a time over a period of a year (if they were 3 day auctions) or longer if the auctions were longer - not practical. Easier and more profitable to "blow them out" at $80 each

This is great work and very creative, and I don't want to detract from it, but the weakness is the plastic to metal connection. It would be better if you could use the top stub of a metal mag and weld it to the Knox feed tower. Wasn't there a guy who machined an entire mag out of a block of aluminum? Maybe he could make just the top 2 inches of that, but out of steel. The other benefit of doing that is that you could cut the Knox feed tower all the way down and get rid of the voids from the cut-outs that it has.

Isn't it true that if you don't reply to the confirmation email, that your change will not take effect? So check and see if perhaps your settings have not changed yet.

Yes, it is correct that the S12 is in the game, but unfortunately, the 8 round mags are not available.

Don't worry, Stony Creek will come thru. They are good guys, and you have to admire their products. A 72 round drum for a Glock pistol? That is very enthusiastic.

It would be easier to get one of the Euro suppliers to get some of the real Russian parts, like the forend and retaining plates, the front sight/gas block and the flash hider like in the pictures. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Thats the stuff

That is beyond cool and beyond radical. It is RADICOOL! But how do you make it ambidextrous? They usually hang off to the right, so to make it also go left you would have to take off the feed tower and turn it around, no?

You can get zinc plated steel hulled shotgun ammo at http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=163181

The feed lips snap on and off so you don't have to incorporate them in the injection molding. You can scavange them off of the 2 round mags (as well as a follower) for $12 a pop. But Kmoore is right about some imbedded metal inside the plastic to reinforce the front tang. You can see on the inside of the mag a little pattern of circles below the tang which are a shadow of the perforations in the metal which help it to imbed in the plastic. Also, you can use a magnet to detect that it is in there. It is almost 2 inches tall and "L" shaped to reinforce into the tang. If you reprodu

It looks like it was patterned after a rifle flash hider, which might work ok, and I'm not saying that I know anything, but it seems like these are mostly cosmetic. If you compare it to the one seen in the Russian pics: It would be cool if you could get the real Russian one designed for a 12 ga. or perhaps try to duplicate it. It has more slots on it and they are closer together for a reason, I'm assuming.

Good call on that JA. It looks like all you would have to do is relocate the rear lug higher. I would bet that the front lug is good. It's possible that it would fit a little loose in the Saiga seeing as how it is made of sheet metal (thinner) instead of plastic. Perhaps AKS74 can post the dimensions so it can be compared to the plastic mag.