Best 16-inch on GB is $599 plus ship http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124448585 and don't know if you have Bargain Barn's in your area or not, the one around here sells the 22-in for $565. BUT I stumbled into my local range tonight and bought a shot once (really) 16 incher for $450 otd Would rather it had the 22 barrel, but it was a better deal than the thumbhole Egyptian Mak-90 sitting next to it for the same money. Anyway, hi guys, my names' Bobby