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Very cool. Another replacement part to keep our Saigas runnin. Soon, you'll be able to build an entire S-12 from the selection of parts you offer, Greg.
Working on it. The mag catch pins will be in next week also.
Oh Greg, you're the man, I've been in need of a new pin, as mine has been worn
on one side and tends to slide out after a while.
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I'll take two
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I found a pouch that works great. Only problem is, I'm not sure if there are any available. It's a German flectar camo
bag. Not sure was it was orignally used for but it's great for Saiga 12 mags. It has 3 inside pockets that will hold
4 stick mags, 8 rounders, if you lengthen the straps on the buckles for the lid (the lid also has velcro so you can get
to your mags quicker if you want) you can get 10 rounders in. Anyway, 4 stick mags and a 20 round drum. I believe an
MD 20 would fit fine, a little tighter than my Promag 20. Or, two 20 round drums fit well also.
So if you see any German flectar bags out there, approx 10x12 and 5 inches thick, GRAB EM!!
You'll have to modify them for belt carry and add a leg strap, but once that is done they're good to go.
I got mine from the sportsmans guide last year, have not seen any since. sportsmansguide.com
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DO THE CONVERSION YOURSELF!! I did mine and I never did work like this on a firearm before. Like you, I was looking
for one of the advertisers on this forum to do it for me. But thanks to the great people on this forum that kept telling
me to do it myself and the help from the videos(watch them over and over,until you fully understand what to do)I finally
decided to try it. Like you, I was nervous about hacking away metal on my gun that I just paid for.
Just watch the vidoes alot, once you fully understand what must be done, then go slow and be patient. If you run into
any problems the guys on this forum will walk you thru it. And yes, it's a great feeling knowing that you can work on
your own gun, and it's your baby. IF I CAN DO IT, ANYONE CAN. I love my Saiga 12 that I converted myself and now I have
a much better understanding of the AK platform. +1 billyjoebob...no one will put the love and time into your conversion
like you will!!
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I will let everyone know as to how the Promag drums perform over time. Or at least how the two I have perform
and hold up.
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I did'nt post on that other forum, but I will tell everyone here what my expirience is with drums.
I had an MD 20, it worked great. I sold it and got most my money back(at the time they cost $225)
Recently I bought 2 Promag 20's. One ran great out of the gate, the other however broke when I
tried to load the fifth round into it. I called Promag and told them the problem, sent the drum
back and had a new one within 7 days. Both Promag drums run like champion sprinters. I like the
slightly smaller size of the Promag and the smoother edges. Only time will tell as to durability
but reliability is good so far. I'm happy with the Promag drums. But like many of you Saiga freaks
I can't wait for a doublestack to be available.
I do know a little about drums I'm an internationally known drummer, OOPS, that's another type of drums!!
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What's wrong with a sling? They seem to work pretty well for transport and I doubt that you plan to wear the scabbard in the car, right...
Slings are the best, I guess some people (like me) just think they have to have everything just in case anything or
everything happens.
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I actually want it for storage and transport to/from range and when traveling in the car. I plan on putting a sling on the gun as well. I had a nice 42" double rifle/shotgun case from voodoo and liked it, but it was too bulky for my needs.
Gonna call voodoo and see what they tell me...
I have a voodoo scabbard, one of my Saiga's fit, but it's a little tight. The one with the HK sights will not fit, the one with the OEM
sights will fit. If you have a quad rail, I don't think it will fit. But if you have a standard handquard or a aftermarket handguard that
is slim it will most likely fit.
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Did they pay to have the bad one shipped back to them? That would be the sign of the very best customer service. It's pretty rare but in my view if a product is defective it's only right for the vendor to absorb that cost.
They have a UPS account # that they'll give you if you ask for shipping.
I'm glad Carlos has gotten stuff running smoothly. I'm sure he came into a shitstorm back during my fiasco with the sticks. Good job Bro!
I about want to buy a 12 rounder with smoke cover to complement my MD-20s. They look SO much better to me compared to the first clear that ProMag released.
Too bad we wouldn't have Carlos following us around with replacement drums with fresh springs in the field. Hopefully they'll get that issue addressed.
Quality really does know NO compromise.
ETA:
Is the double post kinda like your calling card, being as your screen name is double? Or was that a mistake?
Just wonderin'.
No, it was a mistake, but you're right it sure fits!! I'm with you on getting some of the 12 rounders!! and no they
did not pay for shipping the product back to them. I was just so surprised at how fast they got a new one back to me.
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Just wanted to tell my story about the Pro Mag 20rd drum. Bought 2 of them, one worked great from the get go. The second one however
came all undone as I was loading in the fifth round. It sounded like the spring broke and unwound very quickly. I called Pro Mag the
next day. The person I talked with said send it in with your contact info. I did so, it was delivered to them on June 23rd.
On June 30th I recieved a brand new 20rd drum and it runs like a champ.
I don't how Pro Mag has dealt with issues with others on this forum or elsewhere, but I was impressed with how they dealt with me.
Most of the business people are great that advertise on this forum, but I have to say something that has bothered me for a long time
and I never expressed it here to everyone. Magnolia State Armory had a group buy on a tactical flashlight in 2009 I sent a money order
for ninety dollars, there was a death in the family of the owners at M S A and so I left an email telling that person to take his time
on the order. After 3 or 4 months of no product or communication I contacted them to inquire about the product etc. After several emails
and calls from me to them and no answer from them, well you get the idea. As of this date I still have no product or refund.
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18 views and no replies..are you guys mad at me?
The parts will be OK, but you will have a terrible trigger and the gun just was'nt made to be in the configuration it's
in when imported to this country. Do the conversion, If I can do it anyone can. There's no comparison to the gun I have
now after the conversion and the gun I had before the conversion.
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Thinking about picking one of these up,I would like to hear from any of you that have them,does get in the way,does it f-up a gun case any more than the charging handle
I have one, it's much better than the standard mag release as far as ease of operation.
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No way I'm taking the vaccine. I never get a flu shot. My comment was in reference to the conspiracy theories being spun out of this.
Smart move not to take it. Those who do take it will be very sorry they did. We will see what the near future holds as to conspiracy or not. More times than not our so called leaders have been invovled in conspiracy. Truth IS stranger than
fiction.
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I have not used a tornado brush before, so this came as a shock...
I had to double check to make sure that the brush was not eating the chrome lining of my bore. The bore is still shiny and smooth. This gave me a bit of a scare though
Should there be this much lead fouling after 300 rounds of birdshot and 40 slugs?? Seems a bit excessive to me.
That's what happens when I use the tornado brush on my S 12. That tornado brush does one hell of a job huh.
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You can do all the research you want, but it won't do you any good if your bullshit detector is off.
Very True!! I know I'm not going to take the vaccine because of the research I've done, how about you?
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Those of us who do research, understand what is really going on. Those who do not research, know not what they
talk about
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The vaccine has squalene in it. google squalene and read what it is and does in the human body. Then realize that
it is being injected into the body which is not the normal way that squalene is introduced into the body.
Squalene in the vaccinations given to troops for desert storm is believed to be the culprit that caused gulf war
syndrome. This is not to mention the mercury, aluminum and god knows what else (micro chip?) is in this vaccine.
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The prudent would have a contingency plan already in place. Think about every situation possible, such as, EMP attacks etc. Take this into consideration.......SITUATION: The current gov. regime is unfriendly toward gun owners, and plans to implement draconian measures to restrict gun ownership, restrict ammo purchasing, or entirely abolish ownership beyond the failed 1994 assult weapons ban. When coupled with failed economic policy of the continued bailout programs offerd to large corporations, the future will most definitely turn hostile for the majority of the population as survival becoms more important than prestige. This is on top of a looming ban on SUV's, and given the immensely inflated stimulus package, an eventual grab on registered gold to pay for the paper currency. The most likely turn of events involves riots, gang disturbances, border drug war bleed over, Federal or State gun grabs, SUV confiscation, with all of it eventually developing into a police state that mirrors the Soviet and Nazi regimes.
Everyone in all three of my squads have a certian skill that they are masters at. They have all been selected very carefully. All are marksman. All are survivalist. All are commited.
RECOMMENDED READING:
Light Infantry Tactics: For Small Teams, Christopher E. Larsen
Anything by Don Paul: Everybody's Outdoor Survival Guide
The Green Beret's Compass Course
Everybody's Knife Bible
Great Livin' In Grubby Times
The Rifle Rules
SAS Survival Handbook
SMCT 21-1, Soldiers Manual of Common Tasks
Boston's Gun Bible, Boston T. Party
Ranger Handbook
FM 17-98 Scout Platoon Manual
FM 7-1 Infantry Platoon Manual
www.survialblog.com
www.therangerdigest.com
www.survival-books.com
And most importantly.........GOD'S HOLY BIBLE
Good luck gentlemen
Amen to all that you said. Yes, for most survival scenarios a close knit group of carefully chosen people is best IMHO
Do read "Patriots surviving the coming collapse" by James Rawles. And here's just one real possibility that will knock
out power on whichever side of the planet is facing the sun at the time of it's arrival. A massive CME (coronal mass ejection) The sun has been acting very different the last few years. In 2003 a CME was so huge that it was off the
measuring scale by 20 fold. Luckily for us it shot out from the sun on the side not facing the earth.
On another subject. I hope none of my fellow Saiga 12 friends on this site are going to take the vaccine that these
bastards are going to try to force on us. DON"T TAKE IT, YOU WILL BE SORRY!!
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bearhead, listen to gunnyr and definately do the proper conversion. The conversion and other work on your S 12
makes a huge difference, or so I've found. Do your homework on this site,watch the conversion video's and take
your time. Yeah it takes time and work,but you'll have the shotgun you hoped for and then some.
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As I said in an earlier post on this thread, the Glock was ridiculed when it first came out and now it is accepted.
So it will be with the S 12 only more so. I say people will soon be coming to the S 12 in droves. At that time I'm
sure alot of these guys on Glocktalk that are saying the S 12 is a toy and junk will be saying "I knew this shotgun
was best tactical shotty on the market from the get go."
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Hi all,
I'm new here, and also a recent newbie with Saiga 12 guages. I've had AK's in the past, and never really had any issues with them, so I thought the saiga 12 was the way to go with shotguns. Here's my dilemma and hopefully someone here can help:
I bought the S12 brand new, brought it home, and immediately had feeding troubles.
Determined that the shells that I was shooting was the primary issue. Also, noticed that there was a slight issue with ejecting the spent shells. Didn't think too much about it, being that it's new, just figured it needed some "cycling exercise". Anyhow, several weeks gone by, decided to do the conversion, which went off just fine. Took it out this afternoon to run a function test, and now it's not ejecting from the receiver at all. It's drawing the shell out of the pipe, just not tossing the spent shell clear of the mechanism. I brought it in the house, looked it over thoroughly, and other than a bit of a rough spot just before the bolt carrier goes all the way back, I can't see a problem. Kinda sounds like the recoil spring is rough. Manually cycling a shell in it by hand, it'll eject every time. I know, you're probably thinking that I don't have the gas setting right, but I think I do 
. Shooting Winchester 2.75"1 1/8 oz 8 shot, and the gas setting is at position 2. Oh, one other thing just thought about, shortly after I bought the gun, I took the puck out and polished it, put it back. When screwing the adjuster back in, do I need to bottom out, then back up to the right setting, or is there a count of threads needed to get alligned with the gas ports? Please help if you can??!!?? Thanks Guys!
I am new to this too but may I suggest take it out and get some good ammo. Winchester comes in many forms...from the cheap stuff to the good stuff. Try some high brass, or high velocity shells. Read the box and get something over 1250 feet per second...or slugs and see how it ejects....the cheap stuff should cycle on 2 but the good stuff will cycle on 1. Gun may need some breaking in.
Yes, to repeat, you should break the gun in with nothing but high brass on setting 1 to start. If you have FTE problems
still (which you should'nt, but you never know) then go to setting 2. Run at least 100 to 200 rnds thru it to break it in.
These shotguns come from the factory made to run on the higher powered shotshells.
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LOL well the luck would be you had the extra $ for the additonal 2 :/ If I had the cash I probly would have gotten 5 more hehe
Hey, I called the guy and talked with him, told him I wanted 2. This was the same day he put up the ad.
I never heard back from him, and did'nt get any. So who has the bad luck here? It's ok, eventually I'll
get some.
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Some of you may know already but my shotgun had been at the gunsmith since January for a conversion and other work. It was supposed to be finished by June. I get a call in June saying that it is almost done. I send a couple emails and am told it is getting shipped in a couple days. The I get an email that they lost the stock I sent (I am in NY state and require a thumbhole stock). Now I understand people are busy but the gunsmith has already started to take new conversion orders with a 90 day turnaround time. I already prepaid $475 (also included a krebbs sight) which I guess was a bad idea but I thought I was doing them a favor by paying ahead with a money order.
I am at the point now where I just want my shotgun back and will do the conversion myself as I would like to get it runing by this coming fall turkey season. Do you guys think I should ask for my shotgun back and a refund?
Please also if you know the gunsmith please do not mention the name as I do not want to disparage them they have been very polite and nice but I'm just thinking I would be better off taking care of this myself like most other things in life.
Do the conversion yourself!! It's such a pleasure to look at your own work when it's done. Anyone can do the conversion. I did it, and that fact alone speaks volumnes as to how easy it is. Just take your time and have the
right tools and help (this site) for the job. Your problem is just what was pointed out to me by someone on this
forum when I first got my shotty and wanted to convert. sopmod said you won't have to deal with someone
hundreds or thousands of miles away. Get a refund and do it yourself!! I'm not trying to put gunsmith's down,
sometimes they are very necessary. But for a conversion of the S 12, you can do it yourself
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All thanks for the help, I will order on the Internet with delivery in Russia
I wish all good luck !
mcredo let us know if you any have problems getting what you want. I just sold my MD20 a few days ago, sorry!
Promag 20rd Saiga12 drum video
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No it won't fall apart. Take a small screwdriver and gently pop-off each fastener and the cover will come
off, that's all. Further disassembly can be accomplished from there.