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  2. saiga 20 report

    in Saiga-20

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    I see im not the only one to go down this cetme mag . road :) like others Ill take tony's word on it.

    just b/c others have failed doesn't make it impossible. just makes it a huge headache at a minimum, and impossible at a maximum. but don't let that stop you from giving it the good ol' college try.

  4. PG Conversion Question

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    It seems like those two holes might make it kinda weak there or am I thinking too much?

    When your receiver eats through carbide drill-bits like liquorice and consumes grinding disks like cookies, you'll understand just how strong that ruskie steel is. That thin strip will be good to go.

  5. Elite Firearms Conversions

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    I have an S-12 Dave converted and he did a great job on it like yours. It also took awfully long time to get to me, like yours. And it wasn't his fault either, just like yours. The guy is just such a putz to deal with that whenever his name is brought up here the shit starts flying.

     

    I think its because Tony and Will spoil us

    I loved my old S12 that Dave did. It was a helluva a gun. But it's not worth the hassle trying to harass him into finishing the work and shipping it back. Not when Tony is around and does work for comparable prices.

     

    Which company is Will's?

  6. Elite Firearms Conversions

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    Oh, so that's it then. Didn't know. Yeah, his customer service is not what I would call stellar, but in my case it was not all his fault either. You see, the first time he sent it back to me via USPS it somehow ended up in Niles, Ohio of all places. long story, but he did call me back from the message I left and told me he recovered it, and would send it out via another currier which he did. But it was not until the following week that he did. I called and e-mailed until somebody, I think it was his wife, told me he was out of town until Wednesday and gave me a tracking number.

    Yea, that sounds like Dave. Somehow every package isn't shipped until about 2-4 weeks after he claims it will be, and there's always a good excuse. (post office=box of chocolates, shipped to wrong address, grandmother died for her fourth time). unless you call, email, and threaten suit, you won't see your gun for months, but he's always sure to get his money up-front.

     

    glad to hear you got your gun though. post some pics so we can see the new beauty!

  10. AK74 muzzel brake on a 7.62X.39

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted · Edited by AegisDei

    Okay. Here is the deal. I had a gunsmith put a Bulgy AK 74 muzzel brake on my converted Saiga 7.62X.39. Normally would this work without opening up the inside diameter of the muzzel brake? He said it would, after he measured it with caliperes. Mine was left unaltered, aparently, it will not work this way, or the alingment was not correct. It blew out the bottom edge of the muzzel brake and grazed the top right inner edge of the muzzel brake as it exits the muzzel brake, causing the rounds to strike 10 yards in front of me and to my far left.

    I was aiming downrange at a 50 yard target, when I seen the snow flying up 3 yards to my left and 10 yards forward. I only did that twice. Before I new something was not right. I should of stopped the first time I seen the snow fly up that close, but I kinda thought I was seening things. Anyways, the gunsmith said he would correct this, but I was wondering if the AK74 muzzel brake would normally need to be opened up, it is after all a smaller calibere than the 7.62X.39.

    The AK 74 is a 5.45x39 bullet. So it's 2.17mm narrower. That's a lot of difference...might want to consider finding a new gunsmith, he put you and fellow shooters in danger with that decision. You may want to check your muzzle too, it may need to be recrowned. There's a small chance that the barrel will be bulged or cracked too.

  12. Rivets

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    AegisDei, here's a picture of some of the tools I use on AK builds. The tool that looks like a "T" with two legs and the bucking bars around them are the tools I use for the trigger guards. I use mine with a 12 ton HF press, but a large hammer would also work. (you can get the press w/ press plates for around $75 on sale/cupon and it doesn't take up much room. If your going to be messing with projects for awhile it's well worth the cost. I think I've got about $15 in material in the tool and diviots for head were made w/ a 5/16 ball endmill.

    Man, with this set up rivits squish like butter and are perfect in shape and uniformity. I like the rivits from AK-Builder.com the best. Heating trigger guard rivits is o.k., but don't do it on the trunion rivits if you ever do a flat build. If you get the press and make a jig it's not a problem anyway.

    Well damn...looks like I'm going back to the drawing board...thanks for the info! I have a few options left before I throw in the towel.

  13. Rivets

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    I'm trying to finish the install of my TG and I can't get the rivets to buck! I have a set of Tapco rivets and crossmembers made for the AK. I've heated them with a pencil torch and went nuts with a 9lbs mini-sledge and I've not succeeded at deforming them in the slightest. I don't have a bucking bar, but I've been using steel bolts instead. Any suggestions?

  15. AWB II

    in Saiga Weapons - General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by AegisDei

    I was wrong in my previous response...if done via the proper legislation, there doesn't have to be a trial. Theoretically, it would be constitutional to have no grandfather clause or sunset provision. The only requirement would be with regards to the takings clause, which requires we be compensated the value of our assault weapons, but we'd not get to keep them. We MIGHT be able to dig our feet in here so that the compensation costs more than the government is willing to pay, but I'd not count on it.

     

    The only hope is to keep it from being passed at all, which means that we must rely on our representatives not passing the bill...

     

    ...or get a beneficial SCOTUS ruling on what the 2nd really enables.

    That's all well and good, but none of that applies if "assault weapons" and +10 magazines are declared contraband. At that point the government can seize it without compensation (a'la the recent CZ-26 parts kit crap that owners have been going through via Centerfire Systems). There may be an "Ex Post Facto" consideration insofar as prosecution for possession, but they'll still take the contraband... Just a thought.

    It depends on if it was originally contraband when possessed. If you originally are the legal possessor, then it can't be taken without compensation or else it does violate due process...in theory.

  16. AWB II

    in Saiga Weapons - General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by AegisDei

    I was wrong in my previous response...if done via the proper legislation, there doesn't have to be a trial. Theoretically, it would be constitutional to have no grandfather clause or sunset provision. The only requirement would be with regards to the takings clause, which requires we be compensated the value of our assault weapons, but we'd not get to keep them. We MIGHT be able to dig our feet in here so that the compensation costs more than the government is willing to pay, but I'd not count on it.

     

    The only hope is to keep it from being passed at all, which means that we must rely on our representatives not passing the bill...

     

    ...or get a beneficial SCOTUS ruling on what the 2nd really enables.

  18. AWB II

    in Saiga Weapons - General Discussion

    Posted

    Will there be a grandfather clause for those who already own these firearms is what I am wondering. Can they will they make you turn them in? I will not go down without a fight I promise I have to much tied up into them and truly love most of them.

    Property can not be taken without due process, which means a trial. They may try to do a class-action, but it likely will require an opt-out provision. I imagine, every AW owner will opt out, which means the feds will have about XX,XXX,XXX trials on their hands.

     

    It is also likely that the ban will require a sunset provision to be upheld if challenged. So the proposed bill will have to go through some revisions. But I do believe it's time to finish stocking up.

  22. Which one?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    " if you get a .223 ak, you will lose on both fronts: it's too light to spray and pray but not accurate enough to try for a perfectly placed shot."
    Yikes, since when has weight had any bearing on the "spray and pray" technique? I don't want to start anything here, but I imagine the "S&P technique" can be applied to any semi auto. Spray and pray is a waste anyway, theres a shoulder stock and sights on that thing for a reason. As for the original question, get both, they serve slightly different purposes. .223 is a bit more accurate and has more range, if you get one go for a 20" bbl. 7.62x39mm can be used to hunt, the magazines are easier to get a hold of. With .223 conversion you mod the magazines, with 7.62x39 you mod the mag catch. The .223 remington round is very well established here, 7.62x39 was plentiful and cheap, but we've seen how the prices can jump when avaliablity drops. Whenever somone asks which to get- the awnser lies in what they want to do with it?

    i will say, this is a much better answer than i gave. :donatello:

     

    weight has to do with S&P in terms of going through light armor/cover/car bodies/walls. .223 will be wasted on much of it, but a 7.62 will have a better chance of finding its way through and still have stopping power.

     

    i'm a huge fan of accuracy, don't get me wrong, but each has their individual purposes. i wouldn't buy a chevelle for the track, i'd buy a porsche. and i wouldn't bring the porsche to the drag strip, i'd bring a chevelle. an ak was made to be raw muscle, so i won't try to make it give me finesse. could a chevelle run good lap times? hell yea, just as an AK would be good in .223. but the chevelle was designed for the strip, and the ak was designed for 7.62 IMO.

     

    although, when you look at the AK-74, most of what i just said goes to the dogs. so as JK-47, it depends on what you want to do with it and i like his answer much better than mine.

  23. Completely new to Saigas -- a few questions

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    You can use US made magazines on an unconverted gun. The shotgun starts out with 13 foreign parts, so using mag body, mag follower, and floor plate will take you to 10: the golden number.

     

    Adding a PG will take you to 14 parts, so you'll have to find a new way to get to 10 besides magazines. So if you used ONLY AGP US made magazines, you could do the foreign stock/PG, and any 1 other part such as a piston, handguard, etc. If you still wanted to use foreign magazines, you'd have to do a bit more work and swap out 4 things to US. So FCG (3 parts) and a piston for example. My suggestion is to get domestic PG or stock.

  24. I need a machinist...

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    1) Cheaper material can make machining time longer. ;)

    2)Weight in wrong end. I'm seriously thinking to fill AR-stock with steel rod beacuse solid steel AR-stock adapter made very pleasant surprise in handling in form of balance.

    3)Which one can be machined more easily: 4130 or 7075? But you're right, only another can be welded.

    4)Brake can be at the end of choke too. I have one before and one after. ;)

    1) Yes, unfortunately that is true.

    2) I put a 1lbs mercury recoil reducer in my AR stock. It's AWESOME! the balance of the gun is very much improved, and the mercury does eat some of the recoil. Due to the density and fluidity of mercury, i figured it's more effective than a steal rod.

    3) 7075 is easier to machine, but i believe it's more brittle so I worry it'd break more easily on thin walls, especially when drilling/threading thin walls. And welding would be much more difficult.

    4) Since there's not that much pressure with shotgun loads, the brake has to be virtually the same diameter as the column of gas to see any benefit. If the brake is post-choke, then there's a huge difference between Xtra Full and Cylinder bore. You're talking .05", which would equate to a significant change in recoil reduction due to gas scavenging. Going pre- and post- choke would work well, but adds a lot to overall length. Pre-choke will do the most good (if using only one), and keeps the barrel length more manageable.

  25. Which one?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    Tell me why you'd pick either one. Thx. AZhunter

    7.62 = more stopping power, cheaper ammo, classic AK appeal

     

    .223 is a high-velocity round made to be low recoil and fairly accurate. the ak platform doesn't coincide as well with accuracy as it does with the spray and pray method. thus, there's little point to having a round that is better suited for a different platform like an AR. spend your money on what the AK was meant to be: 7.62x39. later on get a .223 in some form of AR variation. you'll thank yourself when you have a fast shooting tack driver and a classic weapon that can spray 30cal hunks of lead at anything within 200yards. if you get a .223 ak, you will lose on both fronts: it's too light to spray and pray but not accurate enough to try for a perfectly placed shot.

     

    just my $0.02

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