flintnapr

WOW!----thank you STIX213 for your very informed answer. also the flowchart which I will always carry with the gun from now on. I deeply appreciate your help. flintnapr The short answer is "yes" Saiga's are legal as long as they are not imported by "Kalashnikov USA" The long answer is: Yes, all AR & AK series firearms are considered banned assault weapons by the state of California, but the issue is... What defines an AR or AK series firearm? Fortunately for us, the courts have determined that we are too stupid to figure that out on our own!!!

back to my orignial question-does this scope mount allow the use of the iron sights?

I don't have the mount yet, but I had asked the same question before and was told it is to low to see the iron sights. So I am planning on getting the quick detach one, in case I have a problem with the scope and want to go back to the irons. whoa!!! when hunting, if you need the iron sights, you won't have time to take off the whole mount fer chrissakes! maybe just saw off the top rail, and use the side rail. who cares about being directly over the bore---I'm talking minute-of-deer here. the over-the-bore crowd is worried about the 500 yard shots in case they can't keep their paralax v

I'm still wondering, does this scope mount allow the use of the factory iron sights? in the picture, it looks like maybe you would have clearance to see thru the iron sights at the lowest setting of the sight ramp. I'd like to know, because when deer hunting, I have found I need the iron sights visible via a "see thru" type arrangement on about half my shots.

I'd been told ANY AK-type action was illegal in California, so I was startled to see a SAIGA .223 for sale in a sporting goods store here today.($500) Was I misinformed by my source (a relative)?

I'd been told ANY AK-type action was illegal in California, so I was startled to see a SAIGA .223 for sale in a sporting goods store here today.($500) Was I misinformed by my source (a relative)?

Does the 5th gen quick release one that is listed above, allow the use of the iron sights, or does the scope sit too low?

hey- I was in ASA too, chinese linguist, early '70s. Okinawa, Thailand, Korea.

thanks for the analysis,-----most commercial hunting .308 is loaded with 150 grain bullet. only one brand had 180 gr. I bet the twist is the reason why.

I want to take my Saiga .308 20"bbl elk hunting. I can buy 180 grain or 150 grain bullets. I'd prefer the 180 for elk, as long as it is OK to shoot in the Saiga. Whaddayaguys think?

Does anyone know the prices of the .308's? It looks like two models are for sale on Gunbroker for $359 and $449 for the Saiga-100

pricing?

as far as Sportsman's Guide goes, when they give you a backorder date, don't hold yer breath...I live in Minnesota, and deal with them frequently, and have learned that if it isn't in stock today, don't expect them to get hold of you if and when it does come in. by then, you are totally forgotten. even if you place a firm order pending. you need to keep checking with them and pounce when the stuff is in the warehouse. they have extremely high turnover rate with their employees, the whole operation is rather loose, you need to pay attention to the actual catalog number of what you want, if you

I have, thru much expeience, evolved the following observation: if I have to think about it, REALLY THINK about it, and keep thinking about it, then I just shoulda bought it. if I didn't, I always regret it. the times I regretted buying something are so greatly outnumbered by the times I passed, and then wished I hadn't....and then time goes by, and even the ones I initially thought it was a mistake to buy, turn into good moves after all...time and an ever-rising market heals all. but failing to move decisively will always come up short.

regular paste wax for cars works excellently to waterproof wood with any kind of finish. it also protects the metal parts. water beads up and falls off. when you wish to re-oil the wood, just strip off the wax with mineral spirits first. Acrylic floor wax also works very well, and leaves a tougher coating. tougher to remove if you want, though.

Right now, there are no sources of these rifles, and the secondary market also dried up in the last few weeks. When they were last traded, the lowest price your rifle could have been bought for was about $320, and $45 for a magazine. the new distributor is not up and running yet, so we have no idea what these rifles will bring in the future. I'm hanging onto mine. I predict (WAG) that there will be at least a $150 price increase when imports resume, due to increased materials and energy costs.

For a while now, there have been absolutely no listings for Saiga .308's on the auction sites or classified's. Are there any commericial vendors that still have any in stock?

cpileri- you need to check your math.

"What's interesting is my dads old 30-06 Remington had tip off mounts on it 40 years ago, you think I would have picked up on that before I have. " yah, I remember the tip-offs, whatever happened to THEM? LOL. not a bad idea, just didn't cut it accuracy-wise. though I think they would be fine on a shotgun.... Let's face it, a serious hunting gun these days means being able to place your shot precisely at 1/10th of a seconds notice. regardless of the circumstances....not exactly the rifle range, or the magazine article, no, this is the real article, when the wind is stealing your body

thanks for the inputs, I'm going with the hi-mount, cause I'm switching to the Saiga for general purpose deer hunting. I want the instant choice for sighting for hunting, the last two years straight I had to use my see-thrus on my Savage 99 for the killing shot 'cause it was so close, and so quick. there's nothing nicer than a scope picture, but if you don't have the time, or the temperature fogs(fugs) you up, having only a scope is a crippler, a hunt-spoiler. I cannot imagine actually needing to de-mount my scope and then putting it back on again and seriously hunting without a complete re-z

throw lever mount. ----- These are the ones that you will see at www.nightvisionweb.com, or at tantal's site. Hey Tokageko, do you think the high or the low weaver rail mount is best? I'd like the option of using the iron sights as well, for hunting purposes. is the mount that has integral 1" rings OK? thanks for your advice.

the above method of polishing is good advice. I would only add that once the contact faces are polished of burrs and roughness, put in some moly grease for the "added pressure" work polishing. the moly will fill the micro-pores of the metal and improve its friction coefficient. I have a little tube of this stuff from way back that calls itself "trigger job in a tube". but any moly will work.

I have the 22". I prefer longer barrels for hunting, because under fast shooting field conditions, short barrels' short sighting radius tends to be really inaccurate. Some say the 16" is more accurate at the range, off sandbags, because the barrel is stiffer. Like a 1/2" difference in the group size at 100 yds. Not much difference to the deer.