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Good morning. I have Kalashnikov USA factory railed forearms (rails at 3:00, 6:00, and 9:00) that I will trade for stock Saiga 12 factory handguards.
Please email me at lonestararms@yahoo.com or call (505) 263-8822.
Mike Rogers
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It's a beauty, Chile. Congratulations!
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Really beautiful, Chile! They did a fantastic job!!! Congrats on that gorgeous build!
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No worries, Chile. Give me a shout if you find them. Someone asked me recently what I needed them for. Handguards... 😂😂😂.
Really impressed with that build. Looking forward to finished pics!
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Hi Chile. I've got a couple of S12 take off safeties but no rife safeties at present. Still focusing exclusively on shotguns, and my jewelry work at present.
Tell you what. If you're interested, I'm happy to engrave an S12 bolt carrier face for you in exchange for some of those S12 handguards. I believe I've still got your email. Please let me know how many handguards your willing to part with, and I'll email you a prepaid label. Also a return label for your S12 bolt carrier for engraving.
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Great job Chile! Looks terrific!!!
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Nice work but looks really out of place on the otherwise all black gun. If you're targeting the AK market, you'll do better with high quality matched furniture sets, grip, and upper and lower hand guard as a matched set.
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Sad to learn of Doc's passing. May God bless and keep him.
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Lone Star Arms needs handguards to fill ongoing orders!
Do you have factory Saiga 12, Lynx 12, or Cheetah 12 factory hand guards laying around? Lone Star Arms will trade new condition Kalashnikov USA take off hand guards in exchange for factory Saiga 12, Lynx 12, and Cheetah 12 hand guards.
Here's the deal... Send us your Saiga 12, Lynx 12, or Cheetah 12 factory handguards, and we'll send you an essentially new condition Kalashnikov USA factory hand guard in return. The hand guards we're offering are top quality hand guards, embedded with threaded steel receptacles for Kalashnikov USA proprietary picatinny rail systems ($24.95 from K-USA).
We will pay inbound and outbound shipping for your trade, and email you a shipping label, so no money out of pocket for you!
Call (505) 263-8822 to arrange a trade for your take off handguard!
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Thanks Chile!
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Created this for a custom Komrad build. (C) 2021 M. M. Rogers
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Love this one as well:
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Topic reopened: Otava Yo!
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Sold! I'll take it in a heartbeat. Please call me to make arrangements.
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On 12/10/2018 at 6:44 AM, evlblkwpnz said:
XTR-12 shotgun and ALG AKT trigger are prime examples of what you are referring to in the 'engineer' commentary. They already know it all, why would they bother to listen to a jeweler or a pool builder, lol?
As far as winners and losers go, I think receiver to trunnion alignment has everything to do with it. It is the one thing that can vary the most on Saiga 12s. I haven't handled enough KS-12s and Lynx to see if they vary as much in alignment.
Had a KS-12 in the shop with receiver/carrier alignment issues, and although the fit and finish is generally much better than the Russian export models, KS-12s clearly aren't immune to these issues.
Lynx seems to attempt to address cycling issues with generally weaker springs, a blackjack type recoil buffer at the rear of the receiver, and a couple of extra gas settings.
Once again it looks like yet another manufacturer is applying band-aids and Appalachian engineering to address problems inherent in the engineering and assembly issues copied from the originals.
Receiver alignment is definitely something we always look at when a gun comes in for work. One of the the other issues we commonly see is fitment geometry.
The guns we see often have a combination of issues when they come in the door, and have often been previously 'worked on ', so along with the inherent issues present in many factory guns, we also often have to address issues created by previous aftermarket work. I'm sure you get your fair share of these guns as well
When I started doing this a decade ago, and I' know the same is true of you, I came to gunsmithing with a background as a master craftsman. Custom pool builder, or custom jeweler - that's not a bad place to start.
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"ive had -2-3 russian shotguns over the years that would run birdshot without futziing around. i shoulda kept 2 of them. they were just so buttery smooth! and light recoiling. not sure what made those guns so perfect. i guess they were just perfectly in sync".
So true!
The biggest issue with Russian shotguns and their many recent clones has always been that the way the parts fit and work together in the real world is often very different than the workings the engineers envisioned when they designed these guns.
What is baffling is that with nearly every clone produced, regardless of origin, the defects which cause common malfunctions are precisely copied from whatever sample the copier happens to have in hand, and that on the corporate side no apparent effort goes in to analyzing and engineering a better product.
Generally speaking, one comes away with the impression that If they're actually paying engineers, they're paying them way too much, and they'd be much better off hiring guys who actually understand how to make these systems perform in the real world.
Pretty much across the board, regardless of the source, out of the box, most AK shotguns will run high brass reasonably well, fewer guns will run low brass reasonably well, and some guns won't run anything well.
Once in a while, when the stars are in divine alignment, an AK shotgun right out of the box will run absolutely everything beautifully. As Salty has opined, when one is lucky enough to get one these. its a "keeper".
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All of the parts on the KS-12s I've worked on have been top notch US Made parts. In many cases machined from bar stock, where Russian parts are cast/forged. Have swapped in Russian Bolts and Carriers to test compatibility with KS-12s and vice versa, and its always 100%.
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"I was running 2.75 dram loads reliably in stick mags and 3 dram bulk pack loads in MD-20 drums. These things are winners right out of the box."
Have rebuilt a number of these guns, and so far I've seen one KS-12 that ran this way out of the box. My advice to the owner was to leave it just as it is mechanically, and enjoy it.
Right out of the gate, Kalashnikov USA guns have been head and shoulders above their Russian siblings in terms of build quality and performance, and K-USA appears to be continuously striving to improve the quality performance of the guns..
Still love the Russian guns, but at this point I'm loving the K-USA guns even more!
Spring resistance can definitely have an effect on performance, but with the caveat that weaker springs usually means limiting the range of ammo you're shooting to lower powered loads. Running more powerful loads with weaker springs can result in damage to your bolt carrier and rear trunnion.
If you want to try weaker springs to improve low end performance, proceed with extreme caution, and keep your heavier springs handy to swap in if you see any wear or deformation to the rear of your bolt carrier, or to the rear trunnion.
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Congratulations, brother!
He's beautiful!!!
Mike
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"Do any of yall run recoil buffers on your rigs/do you recommend them?"
We don't usually install them unless a customer specifically requests it, and this is exceedingly rare.
Black Jack buffers are primarily sold as a recoil reducer, and for that purpose they aren't effective at all.
What they are effective for is preventing your bolt carrier from hammering and deforming your rear trunnion.
If your gun is tuned properly for the ammo you're shooting, you probably don't need one.
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Taking a couple of coils off the recoil spring lowers resistance, theoretically increasing low end performance. The caveat is if you like to shoot high powered stuff, without something like a blackjack buffer, you're more likely to damage the rear trunnion.
What you are referring to as the 'piston' is the 'op rod'. On this platform, the puck is actually the gas piston, and a slightly off center impression where it contacts the op rod is more common than uncommon, so unless it's way off, or you start to see cracking where the op rod inserts into the bolt carrier, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Without mods I doubt it can be coaxed to reliably run the stuff you're shooting. CSS sells reduced power springs that might lower resistance enough to get the 1325 - 1350 FPS shells to run without having to get into modifying the action and gas system.
If it runs 1450 - 1600 FPS ammo as is, it will definitely run the lower powered ammo with correct modification, but as it's a "new" clone, no one really knows yet how well it will hold up over time.
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Note: Posts advertising non-LSA vendor products which are not currently available have been removed from this thread.
Brothers, if you have a truly useful or great innovative KS-12, Saiga 12, or Vepr 12 product you want to mention in relationship to Lone Star Arms high performance work , I welcome your input here, but if you advertise it to MY customers, It better goddamn well be available, and work "as advertised".
Lone Star Arms does not endorse "vaporware," or allow advertisement for products which are not "as advertised" or available when referenced.
One warning only.
Mike
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Present... and still building extreme high performance Kalashnikov platform shotguns, and loving every minute of what I do..... What are you up to these days, brother?
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Which Saiga Gunsmith for my Conversion? Reasonable Turnaround Time
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Lone Star Arms has specialized in Saiga 12 conversions and high performance work since 2008, building the finest, fastest, most reliable Saiga 12 tactical shotguns available anywhere, at any price. Turnaround times are typically 8 - 12 weeks. Call Lone Star Arms Gunsmiths today at (505) 263-8822 to have your Saiga 12 transformed into the fast cycling, high performance 12 gauge shotgun you've always dreamed it could be! lonestararms.com