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Talked to both A.J. and Jim Fuller at Riffle Dynamics, regarding this issue the Saiga barrels have a 90 deg hole on barrel and the hole in the Bolton is 45 deg - also I'm using an Ultimak rail gas tube same length as oem gas tube. What Rifle Dynamics does with the Saigas is weld the 90 deg barrel port and re-drill a 45 deg port forward about 3/8" to make them index. I was Leary about tigging the barrel as well, but they say they have done hundreds with no issues. I'll see when I get it back. Lessons learned: Some advice for those that want this type of configuration, after removal of

Grima, is this a similar design that the new Saiga 12's are coming out with? Without the mag-well will it function with drum mags? Please show us what you did and what fitment is required.

PM sent I will take the butt stock screws.

Mine is on the shelf, I totally agree with you Gunfixer, that "the BHO should be manually released, as that way it cannot release at an inappropriate moment." Let me know what you come up with. The up side to the debacle is that I cleaned up (Bead Blasted and Moly Resin) my S12 and dressed up it's furniture a bit.

On the barrel where the first gas block pin was, the new one goes further back keeping that one exposed.

Will JB hold up to the heat or should I use silver solder on it? Decisions decisions....

Back to the shop for me same problems as gunfixer, I ended up &%$#ing the 1st one up so Tom sent the free replacement. I talked to Jim Fuller about it and he believes that the gun should remain as intended. Really glade I didn't carve into my receiver until I got 100% results. I may put this on e-bay I am just not convinced it will work and have the desired operation. Let more testers come forward and compare notes before I'm continuing any more fitting, like stated way to many variables on fitment.

Thanks James, yes I was looking and leaning towards the FSC47 a bit deafening according to the reviews and pricey but considering form and function it will probably be the one . As for item #3 (as pictured) I am referring to the Krebs KCI 08 it has the device over a shim to hide the marks as per krebs but it's unavailable. I can deal with the Bolten and it arrived today so it will be installed, Jim Fuller over at rifle dynamics uses these for good reason and I believe lessening the forward weight is a lot better for me on my X39 platform, I tend to be more practical with my weapons. With that

I decided to upgrade my 7.62 Saiga with the Texas Weapons System Dog Leg Rail, Bolten Sight Gas Block and refinish with a Bead Blast, K-Phos and coat with Norrell's Molly Resin and reassemble to 922 Compliance. I had a Bulgi 74 and never liked the weight etc. so I removed it and the gas block to make room for the upgrades. I've been searching the net for days looking for ideas, and had quotes upwards of $300 for the damn blemishes! That one was for removing Bbl weld, turn, thread and bead blast. Now what I need is some of the great advice that this forum is known for: any ideas on how to p

I totally agree I used J-B Weld on one of my S12's and after + 300 rounds is holding up great, did mine by putting the the tape inside the receiver and after 24 hrs took down excess with small orbital sander then painted with Brownells Aluma Hyde II. I am updating that S12 so it's getting ready for some fresh paint. I also think the Aluma Hyde II also assists in the bond. So save a head ache spend $6.00 bucks and have great results. Oh and for you non believers, you can also use J-B Weld on your receivers to cover up those nasty grind marks that so many get from over grinding the weld...

Good day all, here is a link that has many ammo vendors for a quick comparison. I hope it's in the forum guidelines . I've had some good deals at Ammo To Go on Shot Gun XX as well as 223 and 7.62 but you can shop around using this link to J&G and many more. http://billstclair.com/ammo.html

if you look at my pics post #129 you can get a good view of the notch where the lrbho catchs the carrier , if youve cycled youre gun enough you should be able to see a wear mark on the lrbho . i just used a triangle file , it shouldnt take much with pressure from the carrier spring wedging it in there. Thanks, works like a charm. Now some minor fine tuning and I should be good to shoot.

My LRBHO is functioning as it was intended however I don't want the bolt to close when I insert a mag. I saw JLangs video but not 100% clear on the notch he put in the rear of the LRBHO, videos and pic are great BTW. I have seen it discussed in the threads but wondering if there is a sure way to do it that is working for those that like that set up.

Nope 12 GA all the way! Hey there Mr. Saiga 12 purist, this is a pretty badass gun. Who wouldn't want the 2 most influential rifles in the world...IN 12GA!?!? It'd make a great addition to my exotic shotgun collection. A 12GA AK-47, and a 12GA "M-16." I get enough dropped jaws when I tell people about my Shotgun AK-47. Who says it has to REPLACE the Saiga? Jesus, you can own more than one style of shotgun. So quick to snub out a competitor JUST cuz it's not your Saiga. Hell these are cool looking shotguns, who wouldn't want a dreaded "black gun" in 12GA? I totally disagree,

I do stamping at my day job and that sentence is bullshit. The AK is loose because it's loose, not specifically because it's stamped. My MP5 is stamped and it's every bit of spec where I've measured it. What I'm saying is this product should have a giant fucking Professional Install Only warning all over it. I think Tony's non-comment on page one was absolutely appropriate. I'll wait until someone can make a proper shaped product, or have at least decent instructions for exactly how to modify. Very glad I read this thread. The Saga 12 is a fantastic Shotgun. I've always wanted

I'm looking good on the Bolt Holding Open Now to fit for Mag and then cycle some rounds. While Bolt was apart for notching I reassembled leaving out The Firing pin as a safety...I don't have any "Inert Rounds" as per Toms Instructions. Still looking thicker then most on the HB will see how it goes I'm just trimming a little at a time . Thanks again for the advice.

Thanks for that! I remember seeing this before @#%& I'm removing from gun and trimming section 5. Glad I replaced the Dreaded Shepherds hook with the simple Retaining Plate

The spring lifts the back of the LRBHO up to the rail. During a cycle... The bolt carrier goes backwards over top of it, pressing the LRBHO downwards then it lifts up after the carrier is past. When the carrier starts forward, the LRBHO is in the way. If round is in the mag, which raises the HB, the back of the LRBHO is lowered allowing the carrier to pass. If no round is present, the HB is down and the carrier is stopped. Do I have to have spring in to manipulate by hand to lock the bolt back? The reason I ask is it is not locking back now so it must needs trimming somewhere. I gues

Pic of the Receiver widened a bit for ABHO for fitment. Once all is dialed in I will cut excess and drill receiver to have button on the side. That will be my last step.

Pics to large will do 1 at a time. Here is the bolt grove, As stated in previous post I cut the ejector with a Mill File only took abot 20 min the file is a littel more then an 1/8 and made a clean cut. For the Bolt I again used a small 1/16 dimond file. May still need tweaking as I progress.

Well the ABHO or LRBHO is in minus the spring but still more trimming to do. I am attempting to check function of Bolt Hold Open portion and it will not lock bolt back when manipulated. Where and how does the BHO lock the bolt? I don't want to trim in the wrong place or places. Here is a pic of my progress.

Happy to hear that it got straightened out in a somewhat timely manner but sounds very frustrated with all the red tape of the word Fire Arms involved. At first like many I was thinking theft, but at post #61 April 07 shipment found and on it's way. I am glad this story ended up on a positive note rather then one poster said, and I totally agree. Collectively we Saiga 12 Owners and enthusiasts don't need any negative press. Lucky you didn't have to refer to the "Problem Solving Flow Chart

Great! Thanks dgyver. Resuming my install now and will revert.

Thanks Bridis, watching video 1 right now for the 7th time I hope that (step 5) will get clarified as others don't start drilling on the ejector unnecessarily...... Or ?? Where are you Tom Cole Jump in on this thread