pavel74

i'm about 20 minutes southwest of ft.worth.

thanks guys for the answers. i think i'll probably go with cutting the hole out, the other method suggested sounds easier but since i work in an automotive shop i've got all kinds of fun cutting tools. one other thing i must decide on is what type stock to use? i would like to find one that requires minimum modification if possible.

i'm at the point where i need to drill the hole for the p.g. and i'm wondering is the diagram i downloaded from the saiga conversion web page (for rifles) going to use the same measurements as the 12 gauge?

yeah, and he will until either sept. next year, or until i find some 8 rounders for sell.

my point exactly, since using an 8 round mag in a saiga-12 would not be in violation of the law why could'nt anyone use the law enforcement mags?

the only reason i can figure that all the 8 rounders are stamped law enforcement only is that so many people are confused by the wording of the law that all the importers figure they would cover their butts by not selling to mere citizens. on a side note i'm wondering if since by the letter of the law it would be legal to use the 8 rounders if we could not use the ones labeled law enforcement, the reason i wonder this is at a gun show a ways back i almost bought an 870 pump gun, it was labeled law enforcment only but when i was talking to the vendor he said anyone could buy it because it was

the valtro could have a 50 round drum and still be legal, it is a pump gun, the evil features are for semi automatics only. the law reads : a semi auto shotgun that has a fixed mag capacity of more than five rounds or a detachable mag, the only reason we can't use 8 rounders now is that no one will sell them to us.

if the 20 is the same as the 12 for the fore end you take out the screw on the sling swivel, then pull it down from the front and out towards the muzzle. i have not taken of the stock, but you should just have to take out the two screws and pull rearward.

man this gun is awsome! (but i guess you all know this) first question is, i know that until sept 14th it is not legal to install a p/g and ak stock, but is there somewhere on the net that details this conversion? i have the threaded barrel model and the manual states right hand thread so that would be righty tighty, lefty loosey would'nt it? and do i just use a wrench on it? thanks, i'm sure i'll have many more questions in the future., pavel.