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I didn't do anything to the scope just put it on. No adjustments. Seems to be that once the barrel gets warm/hot that's when my shots really start going nuts. I only shot 20 or so rounds. And the shots seemed to stay at least "acceptable"

UPDATE Top pic This is a group using iron sites at 60~ yards Middle pic. This is the best I could do with iron sites at 100 yards. Very hard to shoot out that far I could hardly see the target, which was the big black dot Bottom pic. For giggles I slapped the scope mount and scope back on to see what I could do

Sorry guys haven't had a chance to get out to the range. I got t-boned while I was working last week. I've been taking all of my free time trying to find another car and getting all the insurance taken care of. I'll give an update hopefully soon on a range report.

No bullett guide installed

Here's the crown and the mount. The mount is solid. It will not budge in any way. Hopefully get out in a few days to try iron sites I was using a bi-pod when shooting. No flinching (no question about it). Barska scope (new). But also did exact same thing with the old scope. Was also told it could be the barrell, but how in the world would it group at 50 and 65 yards. I would think that if it was the barrell it would be all over the place at that range also

Scope rings are new More info. I was having this same issue about a week ago but I was hoping it was the ammo. I was using steel cased ammo and was getting the same results as today. I did a complete cleaning of the gun and put new scope rings on. I actually shot a few rounds of steel cased today to see what it would do. It was in the grouping of 7 shots I mentioned in my first post. 4 brass and 3 steel cased, all grouped together at 50 yards

Not sure of the brand, but it's a side scope mount. It has 3 screws that tighten it up. Pretty solid mount.

yeah, reading this more thoroughly this is a good theory. what results do you get with iron sights? Lol yea I thought about that AFTER I left the range. I was just so disgusted with trying to figure out what in the world was going on I forgot. Only thing though is that if it was the scope "mount" why would it do the same thing after putting the new scope on. When I took the first one off the mount seemed solid. Both scopes did basically the exact same thing. Grouped great at 50 yards and went haywire out at 80 and 100. That's what's driving me nuts. It makes no since to me. Lit

I have the .223. Ammo was Federal I put (2 different) 3-9x40 scopes on it hoping to be able to shot out to 100 or so yards easier. At 50 yards I can dial in the scope and put 7 shots in a 1x1" or less square. Move out to 100 and can't hardly hit a paper plate more less any type of consistent placement. Sometimes it goes off the plate right next shot off the plate high, all over the place I've changed scopes and same thing happens with both scopes. I decided to slowly work my way out to 100 yards from 50. 50 yards was as stated above 65 yards it was hitting 2" low so I diale

Well thats good to know. Thank you

I could be wrong man, but I believe pretty much anything that'll work on a x39 will work on a .223!! Excluding the actual extractor of course. thats good to know. but like you said the extractor prolly won't work and thats one of the parts that i've been looking for and to this point I can't find anywere that sells .223 extractors.

Before you say use the search button, just know that I have and have yeilded nill results. the kind of parts I'm wondering about are the internals. Like the Bolt, extractor and other such type parts. When doing a search a few of the sponsered sites come up, so looked there and all they have are internals for 7.62 and 5.45 not our beloved .223. Now I may have missed something somewhere were certain parts are interchangable between the 3 calibers but I don't see how they could be. Mostly just looking for bolt parts just incase I would ever need some. thanks for all the help

Yea i'm definetly gonna check out those 2 sponsors and i was already checking them out before I bought the promag. Does anyone know if Promag will warranty a mag that has been, lets say modified. as in filing down some of the bullet guide. As far as adding an after market bullet guide, I am thinking about it but even if I would theres no way I would use the Promag that I have since it is cracked.

First off I would like to know if Promag will waranty their mags if you have filled on the BG tab? Ok I have been lurking for quite some time here and decided to try how a Promag would work. I know really stupid idea, but were I get my mags the Surefire mags {which are awesome) are $42 and the Promags are only $20 so I thought i would give one a try. I have read that you should file down the tab a little bit to make sure it wont brake off. So I took my Surefire and the Promag and checked how much I should file off so it would be close to the Surefire. To tell you the truth it looked li