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  1. When you're at a party, and some folks are standing around engaging in a conversation you don't like, or find interesting, are you so rude as to ask them to stop? Or do you pardon yourself and go get another drink, and find a different conversation? I imagine the latter.
  2. Challenge it. But you'll probably lose. In this case, the "sporting purpose" was originally thrown in for our benefit. Large bore ( > .5") devices are NFA restricted (not outlawed), unless they are shotguns for sporting purposes. Just like cigarettes, and alcohol are restricted - by tax. And tax only. The Supreme Court, for right or wrong, has ruled - and CONTINUES to rule that Federal and State governments have the ability to restrict certain weapons. Just like each State has its own taxes on cigarettes. What needs to be challenged is not "sporting-purpose" vs. "self-defens
  3. There is a thread "Convert to not convert" or something like that. Read it.
  4. Yeah, that stuff rules! And it does pattern like you see in the pics a lot of the time. I've never had a problem with it cycling from AGP mags (don't own any others).
  5. Hah. Yeah, I was thinking about that actually. While it would probably generate a fair amount of revenue if people actually registered .. there would be a shit storm over the fact that ordinary shotguns are now classified as DD, and hence illegal in any of the states that don't allow NFA DD items. And in the free states that allow DD's, there would still be a shit storm over the $200 and registration. You know, I'm pretty sure that President Obama had said at one point that he didn't think we needed new guns laws, we just needed the existing laws enforced. This could be part of enforcing
  6. Heh. He just called me asking for an update and whether I found any info about the Saiga situation. He is at a gun shop now, and they have a Mossberg 930 in wood furniture, for $300. The shop owner will cut and crown the barrel to 18.5" for him, and have it for him to pick up tomorrow morning for $400. So he should be out the door with it, with some shells for $450 or so. Then I guess he is going to buy a second barrel from Mossberg to have something other than the 18.5". I told him to go for it. It'll be a month or so before I get up there to see him and check out the gun, but from his descri
  7. Well, the paradox choke is a Russian made choke specifically for the Saiga-12. Adds about 6" to barrel length.. he doesn't want a 25" barrel out in the woods. He needs to climb some hilly areas to get up to where he wants to hunt some elk, so he wants a more compact gun. A regular Saiga with a winchoke adapter might do the trick.. and keep the barrel shorter; but since this would be a dedicated slug gun - thats what he's building it for - he's looking to be able to fire the widest variety of slugs he can; both off the shelf stuff, and recipes of his own. I never had much luck with the 2"
  8. +1 for the Chaos. It is well built, and tough.. all rail systems add too much weight up front, IMO; so I wont't use them, unless plenty of weight is added to the rear to counter the balance. An aluminium stock sounds like the ticket! But they are much better quality than UTG. UTG/Leapers is for airsoft, in my opinion. I actually do like the style of a lot of their stuff, but the material they use is ridiculously soft. I bought one of their forward rail systems for my M1A SOCOM. It wouldn't hold zero, the screws were soft, and after 40 or so rounds of .308, the VFG I was using tore mightly
  9. OK, So a buddy of mine is looking to build an 18" autoloader slug gun. This gun would primarily be shooting custom-loaded sabot rounds. He loves my S12 and really wants to use one as the base. Honestly, I think he should just get something in the Mossberg 930 family; but I promised him I'd ask around .. so here I am. What we're wondering is if anyone has done any tests with the different rifled choke extensions and knows which one works best? We're not expecting a great deal of accuracy - but if a choke prevents a sabot slug from keyholing, and keeps it on paper at 100 yds - that woul
  10. They run, and they patterned OK for me out of my S12.. but not substantially better than Centurion multi-defense buck&ball, which is cheaper. I also prefer the fact that the Centurion hulls are white, and not black. I like my ammo to be clearly visible. My defense load is just plain old buckshot. I like Hornady TAP 8-pellet buck. Patterns nice, and shoots a bit softer than most stuff I've tried.. makes second-shot recovery nice and fast in case there are two or more bad guys.
  11. Looks like he is protesting 922r.
  12. I tend to agree that there is likely some other reason for this study. From what I can tell, the proposed new definition of "sporting-use" does nothing to limit guns that are currently being imported. I don't know of a single gun that is currently being imported that will NOT be imported based on this criteria. I suspect that the references to import are just misdirection. My gut says this has to do with the NFA as well; it is a way to get combat shotguns classified as DD. Sneaky? Yes. Underhanded? Sure. But, as written, the NFA can be interpreted to mean exactly that. ATF is now just pro
  13. Well, hold on - the study is simply about the importation of certain shotguns. Generally, importing foreign-made military weapons is a no-no, as I understand it. So, guns that are imported must satisfy sporting-use criteria. This study makes some recommendations (probably about forthcoming policy) to the effect of what sorts of shotguns will be allowed to be imported. The S12, as we know and love it today, would still be allowed for import if the recommendations of this study are made policy. The question is, will this definition of "sporting use" be applied only in matters of importation
  14. I dunno, but relatively speaking.. it seems to me like the S12 needs a lot of cleaning; but then I'm not familiar with any other autoloading shotguns. But it certainly requires more cleaning than a pump shotgun.. and they require more cleaning than my Garand/M1A variants, and I imagine they require more cleaning than AK rifles. How much cleaning do other autoloading shotguns require?
  15. Can you put that stock and PG on it without converting it? I didn't think you could... Yeah, with that particular package deal you can.. it includes the ACE receiver block. For someone looking to avoid conversion for whatever reason, it seems like a pretty good way to go. I wonder if that grip is removable.. I never liked those SAW style grips.
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