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rgr wilco on that. working on it as we speak.

Fully understand what you are saying,War. And I;ll see if my shop has the frangible loads. As for the safe place within the home-great in theory-but it depends on entirely too many things,depending on the interior layout of one's home.I have such a place designated,and the wife knows to go there and hunker down with the phone,etc. But- It all depends on where you are in the home at the time the bad guys come in,and where they come in from. What if the two of you happen to be at opposite ends of the home? Say one of you in the living room or kitchen,and the other in a bedroom or bathroom-if

Ty,cobra,good points all. I do plan to spend as much time with it as possible in the coming days. There's a shotgun-only range less than a mile from me that I plan to become real familiar with.I will indeed be training the hell out of the wife on it.She's going to have one sore shoulder by the time Im done drilling her. I might hold off on the hi-cap mags for it,as the ones the shop Im buying from are going for $70. I may instead-for now-just buy several more 5-rounders,and spend the rest on more ammo to break her in with,and getting accustomed to the reloading method on this thing. I want

That's the thing though. Even if retreat were an option for me right now-it isnt-I'd not be inclined to do so. The area itself is a fine one,a place I finally found to call home, after years of living in urban/city areas,and watching those go down the tubes. Im done re-locating, or moving away from trash. I refuse ,now, to be driven off any more. In past locations,the situation was the reverse-the bad guys severely out-numbered the good. Here it's the other way around. Bad as they are, the bad guys are severely out-numbered,on the ground. Either way. Here I make my stand. No more moving awa

Good points,all.Ty,everyone. Addressed some things on the other post on this-so wont repeat that here. As for rounds/types of rounds. .223/5.56mm for HD, the one concern I have with that is of ricochet. Those things,being so easy to deflect, are ricochet nightmares. Any of you with military/combat experience has seen what I speak of-especially whenever tracer is used. Those rounds tend to go zinging off in every crazy direction downrange-whether they hit soft sand,paved surfaces,glass, you name it. I'd be concerned, in the extreme,about over-penetrated or missed shots striking something do

As for other dogs, I do have a Doberman. Had in fact just acquired it a day or so before this happened.She is being trained appropriately,with guard/defense very much in mind now.

Ty.everyone for any and all advice-for or against. What I need is an honest assessment from actual S12 owners/users,and I do appreciate it. This situation I am facing is not the least hypothetical or theoretical. It is a documented,factual and on-going/escalating situation in my immediate area. This situation is not being handled effectively by law enforcement @ any level. Our PD out here,when it even bothers to respond, is amateur hour from hell. The entire neighborhood is outraged,and is coming together to organize mutual defenses, within the law,against our common threat. The threat si

Ty all. No, I have my wife here,as well, and another dog. House is thick brick. But Im not planning to shoot out THRU the brick. Indoors,Ill most likely use the .45 ,but will depend on what's at hand at the moment. My other main concern is when Im out in the yard,etc. The shooting that has already taken place,was from off-property INTO my yard. So, Im as concerned about engagements of that sort,as much as I am inside the home.

Ty for the responses. I live in a rural area in Florida. Dead-end street with only about 6 homes on it-all along one side of the road. Case is being investigated,with 4-6 "persons of interest" declared by cops. Not enough evidence yet to arrest them-supposedly-despite all having a past record of having tortured/killed pets in the area,and all being prime suspects in armed home-invasion/burglaries in the last few months. Everything is formally documented,and cases filed with Police,PETA,ASPCA and the local media. The rest of us on the block are in the process of organizing to monitor thes

I dont have a particular brand preference or anything. I've used Winchester in .410 for the tons of rattlesnakes and cottonmouths I get around here.but that's about it. My main question is,are there any particular rounds or types of rounds,that are know-via you guy's experiences-to function reliably in a stock/not modified S12? The funds for additional items/mods etc, just arent there yet. Im having to get this thing pronto-quick,for an immediate/current situation that is on-going.This isnt a casual/toy/sporting purchase with some extra cash laying about. My main needs for this thing wil

I dont meant to double-post,but I'll link previous post,in the hopes it will be seen one place or the other: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=58040 Short story-I am getting an S12 in the next day or so,purely for home defense use. It will be unmodified for the time being. I plan to acquire the 10 or 12 round mags the store has for it-(not sure what make,yet-and not,at this time concerned with 992,etc.) With above in mind- advice? anything I need to know? and what suggestions for most-reliable/most effective COMBAT buckshot rounds? (wont be using this for ducks targets

Much as I hate for this to be the reason for joining, my home and family have recently come under direct attack,with my dog having been killed in my own driveway with a shotgun fired from down the road. http://img.photobuck...un1/lady1-1.jpg Hence, I have had to decide to severely upgrade my arsenal more suddenly than I can help. I have chosen the Saiga 12 as my defensive shotgun (and Glock 30 for my defensive sidearm). I plan to pick mine up in the next day or so. It will be stock (non modified) for the forseable future,as I will lack funds/time,etc. to do such things anytime soon.