my (2) saiga 12,s converted by tony rumore did not have any markings . i do know he converted them because i talked to him personally. but that was when it took less then 2 weeks . 2005/2006 ish. as for red jacket the new stuff yes. but back in 2006 when the were converting them , i don,t think so. they were getting started and marking them was probly last thing on there mind for newbies tony rumore =tromix will hayden =red jacket not sons of guns ,that is the name of the show