Richard Erichsen
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i think technically, thats a thumb hole stock. and im not positive, but i think that is classified under the same legality as a pistol grip under california law. so you can put it on your saiga, but be sure to also have a bullet button on there too.
Cali_Armz,
You could be correct - poll updated. When I think thumhole though, I usually imagine a pistol grip directly attached to a buttstock, but not what that means in terms of the position of the hand. I haven't seen a legal definition either and it's possible it has not been tested in court. I wonder how much variation exists in the interpretation?
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While I'm not looking for legal advise, I'm curious if the general consensus is that this form of stock is NOT "a conspicuous pistol grip" given the location of the web of the hand in relation to the trigger and the bottom of the receiver.
JAE build a stock for the M14/M1A that the CA DOJ declared did not constitute an AW on grounds that the web of the hand was higher than the trigger and receiver bottom. While they obviously look fairly different, it would seem the web of the hand is also above the trigger on the Saiga adjustable and non-adjustable skeleton stock.
Granted, the Saiga stock has a support above the web of the hand which the JAE 100 G2/G3 does not have. Whether the height of the grip relative to the trigger is the defining characteristic or the presence of a support neutralizes that argument is up for debate. Does anyone know if the CA DOJ has given guidance on this matter to interpret what is and what isn't "a pistol grip" or does every vendor have to wait for a form letter with a relatively high level signature to know for sure?
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You should make a couple more posts asking for these in the Saiga 12/20/410 sections, since they use the same stocks! I would completely avoid the WTB (thats: Wanted To Buy) section of the forum tho, you'd most likely not get any responses there.
Much appreciated Mullet Man. I'll do just that. I've been told that WTB section was a waste of time, but I'm letting the mods know I'm trying not to be too much of a nuisance.
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Hello all,
I'm planning on building a few sporter style AKMs and am in need of any sporter bits you've discarded during your conversions. I'm interested in FCGs from the more common 7.62x39 mm and the less common .308/7.62x51 mm rifles. Wood stocks, if you've got them, would be ideal, but plastic stocks are fine.
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Hello all,
I'm planning on building a few sporter style AKMs and am in need of any sporter bits you've discarded during your conversions. I'm interested in FCGs from the more common 7.62x39 mm and the less common .308/7.62x51 mm rifles. Wood stocks, if you've got them, would be ideal, but plastic stocks are fine.
Moderators - if this is in the wrong spot, please move it to a more appropriate area.
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Hello all,
I'm planning on building a few sporter style AKMs and am in need of any sporter bits you've discarded during your conversions. I'm interested in FCGs from the more common 7.62x39 mm and the less common .308/7.62x51 mm rifles. Wood stocks, if you've got them, would be ideal, but plastic stocks are fine.
Moderators - if this is in the wrong spot, please move it to a more appropriate area.
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CA owners - Does this stock represent a "conspicious pistol grip&#
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I'd prefer the conventional stock, though the Saiga stocks are just too short for me (I need LOP of about 14.5" to be comfortable and a raised comb for a good cheek weld), I'm not looking to go Tactical. The penultimate would be what I've attached from BattleRifleG3, but he's utterly unreachable (the bottom example specifically). What's available from the factory isn't quite it in either grip angle, length or comb height. Other options that some folks go with are "grip straps" to make it impossible to grip in the conventional manner (which are godawful ugly), or the presence of a thumbhole stock or pistol grip requires a magazine lock to make it "non detachable" thanks to the AW laws.
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