Guys you can believe what you wish, as I havn't a thing to prove to any of you. I know what I and my rifle can shoot and if you choose not to believe me then I am most certainly good with it. I am too old in the tooth to have to prove anything in my life, simply answering the zero question. As it comes to moving the trigger group forward what benefit does it have other then comfort, which I actually find the current setup very comfortable, mind you not as comfy as my ACR but better than my m4.