raidernation

+1 a pistol might be a better first gun and a Glock 17 is an awesome pistol. I have one and am extremly happy with it. I also have an S-12 and let me tell you that this gun is a money pit.

I wish everyone shiped as fast as Greg

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Shoot the gun first before you start polishing and and adding parts to her. Hand cycling a few hundred times should help speed up the break in proccess. Also start off by shooting high brass, your gun should run through those right out of the box without a problem. If you are going to shoot low brass stay away from the winchester bulk and go with the federal bulk. As for trying to polish the bolt and carrier yourself, I would say pay one of the forum venders (Pauly, C&S or Cobra). It will be easier and will come out better than doing it yourself.

This is why I didn't feel bad paying $650 retail for my S12 this month. I rather suspect that even Internet pricing of S12s isn't going to go down much past $500. ~$650 isn't bad at all. I don't think you overpaid. I suspect that, going forward, S-12 average price will hover between ~$650 and ~$700. Some here blame the price increases entirely on the Russians, but let's not forget that the US dollar's value is significantly lower than it was in the ~$500 S-12 days.. and unfortunately I think it will continue to fall, at least until early 2013. Another factor is the cost of

Nice, looks like fun. Have any issues shooting low brass post conversion?

Just keep breaking it in with the high brass and hand cycle the crap out of it. How many of the rounds of buck did you shoot? If most of the 40 rounds where target and bird shot, FTE's are common on a new gun. Many S-12's are very picky with the low brass. Most will recomend using federal low brass over the winchester. As far as loading a mag on a closed bolt, check out Paulys glass bolt work. Sounds like you almost there.

Calijohn said it best....

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Puck was stuck while shooting the last 5 rounds. This is when I noticed that my gun was a single shot. Tried turning the gas plug to a lower setting but the gunk was so caked up in the there I could not twist it by hand. I had to wait until i got home to twist the plug. It reguired the use of a screw driver to unscrew the gas plug. The gunk in the gas block/threads looked like solder.

I didn't have issues with bolt /carrier. These weren't too bad, a lite wipe down was all that was needed. The real issues were with the puck and the gas block.

I cleaned the gun before and after shooting it. I had to use a cleaning rod and a hammer to get the puck out. The gas block was filled with crud and took me about an hour to scrape out.

So I picked up my S12 about three weeks ago and got her to the range last Saturday. As many people have suggested from this forum I racked the S12 about 400-600 times and made sure to run slugs through her on the first trip. I brought 30 Federal 2 3/4" slugs and 20 Federal 3" Magnums. Started off shooting the 2 3/4". The first two shots resulted into FTE so I changed to MD plug to setting three and was good to go after that. After running 30 of those, I switched to shooting the 3" magnums. I left the gas setting on three (should have put it on setting one) and ended up having a single shot S12

Got me too. Forgot it was April Fools Day. Have the money burning a hole in my pocket and nothing to buy

Man you guys are lucky to find them for under $600.00. I purchased my Saiga 12 for $820.00, this included shipping/tax/DROS. People get the short end of the stick in Cali. Oh Well at least we have nice weather.