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  1. Not to nitpick, but the WASR-3 arrives from the factory with the ability to except the MSA adapter. One must modify the weapon to accept the adapter. The "frame" is called the receiver. The "nubs" are the locking lugs, which lock the bolt into the trunnion. Without them, the gun blows up in your face. I can safely assume you are referencing the bolt when mentioning "the firing pin mechanism". The "rod" is indeed a center support. I do see minor modification to the magazines themselves. Luckily, your dremel skills exceed your grammar and syntax. But it's only English. Just ribbing. Welcome to the forum. I am thankful for spellcheck and online dictionaries. Good pictures illustrating the process. Granny always said, "the proof is in the pudding". buckmeister haha...thanks buckmeister, yeah...the reciever, bolt and bolt carrier (had no idea what the "nubs" were called tho...but now i know they are called lugs...ya learn something every day)...but sorry...not running at 100% right now...not much sleep last night with all the excitement going on here in Tampa Bay...thanks for the response tho, dont mind my poor grammar and lousy syntax...you know what i meant =P that's why i posted pics! =) just hoping it might come in handy for anyone else lookin to get the adapter. I couldn't have done it without all the other forum members who posted earlier instructions any ways. So Thanks to all of them as well!
  2. UPDATE : alrighty guys, just got my adapter in yesterday =P spent all afternoon and last night fitting it into my WASR-3 (well in between the Rays big win of course! =P)...took a long lunch today and got it to the range to test it out...here are my thought thus far... (oh, and sorry...never made up a install vid...just some pics) at first, i had to dremel away some of the frame to get it to even slide in...which i hadn't given much thought to before hand...so reluctantly i did the deed to widen the hole...(which made my original galil type magazines wobble ALOT and was all sorts of worried about that)...but got the adapter to just slide in... next i had to do some dremmeling of the 2 "nubs" that stick out from either side of the body (which i honestly dont know what the purpose of them are...i dont see them serving any purpose other than to make sliding an ar-15 magazine all the way up to the feed ramp impossible...but whatever...)... and after some serious dremel, check, dremel, rechecking...i got the adapter to fit in so it *clicked* into place... adapter in! But it took alot of tinkering to get the magazine to actually feed properly tho...but trying to rack the slide and have the firing pin mechanism catch and chamber a round, took some unforeseen modding to the rod (that i assume is there for support...in the middle) (ugly handywork if you ask me...hard to get the dremmel in such a tight spot...but hey, it makes a world of difference in my case) and some minner modding to the magazines themselfs... and even some form fitting to the adapter...just so the rear of the round would sit high enough for the slide to catch....i did as little modifying as i possibly could to the actual rifle itself...i didnt want to go to far and "brick" my gun...even if it was just for fun and meant to be modded in the first place...still...being out $450 is not what i wanted...ill be out 15 for a mag or 80 for the adapter...those i can replace without consorting my wife =P anywho...i digress...heres the finished product with pmag and tapco mags in it...hope you all like my gunpron tac job =P Now to my range time and testing: so i was all pumped to take it out and see how badly i had f*d it up...completely intending for the thing to jam and fail in all sorts of ways...but surprisingly enough...it worked GREAT! the only FTF's i had were from a tapco galil style mag that i had gotten before i bought the adapter...(those things suck...still cant get it to fire right)...so any problems werent even related to the adapter...granted...the original magazines that it came with wobble like theres no tomorrow...but i did as much as i could to get them to jam up...and nothing...old mags worked just fine...and both the pmag and tapco mags worked like champs... so in conclusion: if you can get over your stock mags jiggling around (ill just keep the stock mags as backups anyways)...and if you install it with a dremel...it may not come out as pretty as you had hoped...but all in all it was easy to do...took about 6 hours total (for me)...and it works great! now i can fire my buddies ar-15 mags and visa versa when were out wasting our money on ammo...=P *that was a joke... props to msa for coming up with this adapter and good luck everyone!...keep those muzzles down range! oh and support the NRA!
  3. Good stuff! Yeah, it lists the WASR-3 as being compatible in the description of your adapter...so i was confident it would fit...i cant wait to test it out...just got an email saying that tracking info will show up monday, cant wait! Hope business is going good! Ill be sure to show it off and try to bring ya some extra business...none of the local dealers had ever even herd of such a thing...but with all the saiga's flouting around, ill show the adapter off and hope some of these dealers wake up... and due to the significance of this weekend, i want to say my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, the victims families, and all the great men and woman of America affected by the 9/11 attacks... LEST WE NEVER FORGET
  4. good stuff! thanks msgw357, wish i didnt have to go the dremel rout...but i dont foresee myself using a mill enough to justify the cost...and im pretty good with a dremel anyways...so im pretty confident...but i like your reassurance
  5. thanks foreign firearm friend for the quick response, i plan on doing exactly as you say, and GO SLOW... any tips on that digital micrometer tho?....i picked one up when i got those carbide cutters earlier, cause i didnt have a micrometer lying around either lol...but it looks like i had envisioned them working out better... i just went with the inexpensive "general ultratech" digital micrometer...but i cant squeeze them into the frame of my ak...so im wondering if there are better micrometers out there with longer "arms" that will get me into the tight spot i need them...otherwise i was going to either glue some pieces to it, or measure the two sides and the whole and subtract the difference...what type micrometers are you using? i guess i can just return the ones i got and find "better" ones if need be Couger.... I installed an MSA adapter in my Saiga and did all of the cutting with a Dremel tool. Take your time, fit, fit, and fit again. I'm not a machinist and never played one on TV. I used a digital CALIPER for my measurements. I already had one because I reload and use it to compute my bullet O.A.L.. Instead of using the "jaws" of the tool, there is a narrow "shaft" (my non-machinist ignorance) that extends from the opposite end that allows depth measurements into narrow spaces. Hope that helps and apologies to machinists around the world. Pogy.... i am by no means a machinist either...and i too am using digital calipers...not a micrometer...i dont know what the difference is...the debth measurements i can do with the calipers that i have...but not the width...ive seen a picture posted on this forum, that some one did up and had edited in the leangth and width of how far and wide you need to go...so naturally i wanted to measure the width...but i guess as long as i dont cut any further than the rivet on the sides, i should be fine...this is of course all just here-say until i get my adapter in...(hopefully soon!)...cant wait to start tinkering with it...thanks guys for all the advice and responses! its looking as tho im the first to mod a WASR-3 for this MSA adapter...at least the first one who has shared his experience with doing so on-line... and foreign firearm friend, i like the painters tape tip...im gonna have to try that out...ill post more when i get to work on it...keep the tips coming guys!
  6. thanks foreign firearm friend for the quick response, i plan on doing exactly as you say, and GO SLOW... any tips on that digital micrometer tho?....i picked one up when i got those carbide cutters earlier, cause i didnt have a micrometer lying around either lol...but it looks like i had envisioned them working out better... i just went with the inexpensive "general ultratech" digital micrometer...but i cant squeeze them into the frame of my ak...so im wondering if there are better micrometers out there with longer "arms" that will get me into the tight spot i need them...otherwise i was going to either glue some pieces to it, or measure the two sides and the whole and subtract the difference...what type micrometers are you using? i guess i can just return the ones i got and find "better" ones if need be
  7. lol arent the internet's great!? =P ok, sorry guys...this is my first post...and i know this is a forum dedicated to the saiga's (which are popping up EVERYWHERE it seems here in central Florida)...i heard through the "grape vine" that there was a big shipment recently of saiga's in these here parts...and i see them everywhere! BUT... I took the plunge and got a Romanian WASR-3 (the 223/5.56 model ak incase anyone didnt know, that is...) instead... heres the thing... ive been roaming the internet for cool stuff i can do to my new "toy"...and stumbled upon these forum posts...ALL OF THEM... i kinda feel like im that guy that walks into a bar and everyone turns around and looks at cause hes "not from around here"...so before i jump to any names and/or reletive posts, i just want to make it clear, im just here for some honest help and respect everyone's experience/opinions... now, all that said... there are some rather dramatic posts by a few people on this forum that make my recent purchase of the MSA AR2KU223 AK/SAIGA magazine adapter...link - http://magnoliastatearmory.com/products-page/page-header-list/ar2ku223-aksaiga/ makes me kind of question if i should have pulled the trigger on it so soon...unfortunately my over joy and excitement of finding out someone made an adapter that could fit in my WASR-3 to feed AR-15 mags got the better of me... BUT...i hadnt read ALL the forum discussions involving "Nathan" and "Cobra"...and "YOU PEOPLE" lol...and even the ones on other related forums...till just now... But i can say NOW that i have read ALL OF THEM...(or so i think)...and i have concluded that MSA is a reputable "mom and pops" business that fell into a rut, and caused some bad blood between a few people...hope all is well now, from when those posts where submitted, it looked to be a year or more ago...so im sure things have settled down since then (or so i hope)... honestly, i like that a company like MSA is investing its time to actually respond to forums like this and be apart of its clientell...MAN, if more companies were like that...props to you guys! anyways....to the reason i started this forum discussion in the first place (forgive me if im being over-winded) HAS ANYONE MODIFIED A WASR-3 TO ACCEPT THE MSA MAG ADAPTER??? and IF SO, is it any diff than the saiga's? like i said above, i just ordered one (yesterday), and i plan on using a dremel to custom fit it (i already went out and purchased good tungsten carbide cutters from sears in the 1/8 size and more cause i didnt have them just lying around)...but im wondering if the measurments that are posted for the saiga are relative to the WASR's, i cant imagine why they wouldnt be...but are there ANY OTHER hiccups that i should know about before-hand???... oh, and if everything works out as planned, i hope to create a install video as i go, on youtube step by step...for anyone else that might be interested in the DIY dremel rout... THANKS! -J
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