Nick!

So I finally figured out what the issue is (besides from the obvious). Being as that I had already screwed up 1 gas tube, I was not going to rush to alter the 2nd one. I was just playing around with the different pieces when it occurred to me. When I had first test fitted my new gas tube on the receiver, the bottom handguard was already secured in place. This time, I test fit the gas tube without the lower handguard on and what do you know??? It dropped right in with no filing necessary. I then proceeded to assemble the rest of the rifle without any problems. Because the lower handguard

Yup, ordered a new gas tube.

I've already spent way too much money on this damn rifle. I'm thinking like 10 bucks shipped!

I just want a cheap, nylon sling from one end to the other. The cheaper, the better. Need to work with my gun, see pics below.

No problems with factory tube Yes, it did cycle fine prior to range test. I don't believe however that is the cause considering the factory tube is working fine. I honest think I just filed it down too much and there is too much play.

Nope, it was closed. Even closed however it still jossles around a bit.

You shouldn't have to file the gas tube at all. Pick up a surplus AK-74 tube or one of these: http://www.k-var.com...&cat=293&page=1 Believe it or not, I did have to. I tried to make it work without filing but no dice. Even searches on the forum and a member chat revealed that filing may be necessary.

Even further inspection revealed much more play in the gas tube even when hold down is closed. It just jumbles around more than I think it should. I may have filed it down way too much.

I actually think I may have pin pointed the problem. I noticed that the piston is stopping right where the larger lip crosses into the actual gas block. There is also a small wear on the side of the gas block closest to the receiver. I have no idea how to fix it though.

I highly doubt the piston itself is damaged; I purchased it and converted it without ever firing it first. Weird thing is that when I initially put it on, it cycled no problem. Actually firing it was a whole nother story.

See Post #4 I took my newly converted Saiga to the range yesterday, managed to get off 2 shots and then Bam, it happened. The gas tube is off a Romanian 7.62x39. After doing some research on the forum, I learned that gas tube would work and it would require some filing to make it fit. Here are some pictures to help describe my problem. This first picture shows exactly where the bolt/piston rod is located when the jam occurs. At this point, I literally have to bang the charging handle against a piece of wood to loosen it up. The picture after that is about the same spot without

Still looking

Cool, Thanks. I am doing just that, putting an AK style 2 piece handguard on my conversion.

Will a gas tube from a 7.62 Romanian G work on my 223? Thanks

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