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siminov

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    You can open carry in Florida if you are hunting, fishing or camping.Most LEs in Florida don't know this so you will be at the least shot and arrested.Personally I do not see the point but do not object to it.

    I was there from 98 through 01 and it was OC. CC required a permit. Did it change in the last few?

    Florida hasn't had regular OC since the Civil War War of Secession.The only OC legal even in the timeline you say was still only permitted while hunting, fishing, camping, gun shows, or while shooting, and while going to and from such activities.
    lol! All I hung out with was Northport PD and a few Charlotte county deputies. Maybe they didn't care?
  2. Who knows what these officers were issued? Every department runs differently and issues equipment differently and these guys might not even have had tasers or bean bag rounds. In these situations you have to make a decision based on alot of factors very quickly. That suspect was energized and violent. Maybe they were forced with the decision to stop him in an open area like the street before he could reach the sidewalk and more businesses with people.

    I'm not saying that this officer is innocent. But I'm also not going to assume that he's guilty either. The only facts I have provide me with knowledge that he was armed, violent, and had to be stopped quickly. The suspect continuing to move his hands may not seem like a big thing but with all the possible variables it is.

  3. Humans can be trained many ways to stop another human but I don't believe you can truly predict how you're actually going to react when confronted with the real thing until it happens. Every situition is different and adrenaline can do incredible things to everyone involved. At the point that the suspect refused to drop the weapon and yield those officers had to take it as an act of aggression and were then tasked to stop him. I watched this on a phone and can't clearly see his hands on the video or hear what's being said. Did he overreact? I don't know without more details. I do know that he had to be stopped and he was.

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  4. I don't have a big safe in my home. With my on-site shop all the tools to open any safe are readily available and being out in the boonies a capable individual could easily do what they want without being disturbed. I keep important stuff in a safe place that I'm not going to disclose. What I keep in my home is a bunch of hard gun cases that are locked and contain pressure treated lumber for weight. My thinking is that a burglar isn't going to waste time cutting the locks there but rather take the whole package to be opened at a safe location. Sure, I'd lose alot of valuables, but the important stuff will be missed.

    For those interested there are also 4G trail cams that will send pics or video straight to your smart phone or email. Service is under $100 a year and camera prices vary.

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  5. At common law, the fleeing felon rule permits the use of force, including deadly force, against an individual who is suspected of a felony and is in clear flight. Force may be used by the victim, bystanders, or police officers. According to David Caplan "Immediate stopping of the fleeing felon, whether actually or presumably dangerous, was deemed absolutely necessary for the security of the people in a free state, and for maintaining the "public security." ... " Indeed, it has been said that the social policy of the common law in this matter was not only to threaten dangerous felons and hence deter them, but was also to induce them to "surrender peaceably" if they dared commit inherently dangerous felonies, rather than allow them to "escape trial for their crimes."

     

    I'm not certain of how accurate this is (wiki) but it sure makes alot of sense to me....

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  6. He was armed with a knife(in his hand) and maybe the officers didn't want to get too close considering he had just punctured a cruisers tire and damaged a cruiser window. He was armed with a deadly weapon, had shown he was willing to use it, was behaving irrationally, and fleeing. He was also found to have pcp in his system. These officers responding have a responsibility to the rest of the public to disarm this criminal before he hurts someone.

    Maybe there's more I have yet to read but from what I have read and seen so far these officers did a public service and did it right.

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