He's telling me it's converted as far as accepting the larger mags. Which is obvious because it has one on it. It is a 2011 model. If you saying I can get on online unconverted with a chaos. Isn't my deal better than that. I'm getting just an unconverted Saiga 12 with a $100 drum, an $80 laser light combo and a $50 aftermarket stock. I can get a stock Saiga online for $650 if in stock then you add the $100 drum, any after market stock I get is going to be over $50. Then I have to pay to have it converted which is like $75. This saiga is ready to go blast out 20 rd drums right now. Y are y'all