Z_Felix

Thanks to obama now we got new model in 6.5x39, short versions should be soon. Sancsions, no export at all

an other 9mm

video review

http://www.nobninsk.ru/news/fotogalerei/saiga-9.html some new photos

Russian fucking police also not fools, but saiga had been certificated, thats why im thinking that there is no simple way to make this gun shooting in automatic mode.

There will be no any export, uncle sam had banned izmash.

Saiga 9*19 started to sell, thanks for uncle sam that only in Russia.

the original "proshanie slavianki" dosen't have word's, it's a marsh, but this song is most known(video that i have posted), the video posted before is "unknown" handmade with "pop" russian film actors, like if "The Bonnie Blue Flag" would be singing by Tom Kruse a little correction, first posted before video is USSR marsh-song in WWII, second video posted before is as i sad on top of this post

Arik, can you give the link to german version?

"They" also can do thing like this, but only for gunshows.

Molot made 9mm carbine by convertion AKM, it's cheap, about 850$. Saiga-9 about 1900$

No, it not my carbine. But its shure one metall thing, not two like in saiga.

izhmash is dead, but some saigas were sold

There is no more "IZMASH", it was renamed to "Kalashnicov", but plant now is mostly dead then alive. Saiga's are not making about a year. "Molot" custom workshop started to do some carbines, but i think there are no a lot of them will be done. http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050487.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050489.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050491.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050493.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050495.jpg

There are no good news, IZMASH now is not doing any civilian guns, and when it will start doing it nobody knows. An other plant started to sell real AK-47/AKM carbines in Russia, without auto-fire ofcourse.

Vepr 9x19 had been released, but price for it in the Russian gunshop where it was found is about 1913$, hell and israel! http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410477.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410479.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410481.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410493.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410495.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410509.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410511.jpg

Previous director of IZMASH(1996-2011) was arested, he have stolen 159 275 000$ from izmash while he was working on plant. It's putins russia, stoling money from country is normal for putins goverment. Director simply have not shared stolen money with "goverment", that's why was arested. Zimbabve, Sir!

Nobody in Russia can understand why izmash is not doing saiga-9 as quick is possible. For last information it should come to our weapon stores in april. You will be surprised but we still don't have civil guns in 5.45x39 in Russian, IZHMASH simply don't do it for us, all for USA's, americans buy everything and gives real $ I dont know how to describe in english what people are working on our weapon plants in management, they are so far from civil people and modern guns. "Stone Age in Age of laser rifles". For full understanding situation - situation is like company is still making casset

i'm from Russia, i don't know who will import them. A lot of people are waiting for saiga-9х19 here, it should be the first Russian pistol carbine that would be producting in out country for civilians. We have very stupid weapon law, and a very criminal president with hand mafia in government, that are making a lot of panic about weapons that we have. Americans shoot in school's - putins mafia changes weapon law in Russia - paradox. Especially government afraid of pistols in civilans hands, now we don't have them, and every time when someone in press starting to discuss the idea to let our p

As the say they second version would be in 9x21(not russian) for countries were 9x19 is illegal for civilians. But you should know that IZMASH now is near bankruptcy, putin's mafia is killing it by ineffective management, also it's an old factory that was made to meet huge army needs. In modern world you do not need 5 or 10 thousand people production company to make assault rifles.

Saiga-9 have been certificated.

New magazines by izmash.

IZMASH have sent Saiga-9x19 for certification, and as they said they are going to start producing it already in february. USA's, what is about importing a military style weapons, is it still illegal?

ARMOR is it saiga-9/vityaz-9x19 ?