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That's pretty douchey behavior. I hope your customer dis-service policy bites you in the long run.
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You do know that CA has no mail order ammo restrictions, right? Yes SF and LA have some restrictions but shockingly there is more to the state than that...
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I mounted the standard See All on my V-12 and it works fine. The only minor issue would be ejecting hulls nicking the See All a bit but it's purely cosmetic.
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I have a 100% bone stock IZ-132. I have it for several years. I'm contemplating adding an optic...I really don't want to mess with it as it runs great and does the job, plus I don't want to contend with the legal crap I'll encounter in CA and with 922r so stock she stays.
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I'm well aware of SF's rep. I also don't see derogatory slurs furthering the conversation. I'm involved in 2nd amendment causes in CA. Tolerating that kind of speech isn't helping gun owners look any better. So I'm not going to sit quietly when the slurs fly.It was in Mercer, PA. I guess that makes you stupid twice, once for not being able to read, twice for being a hate mongering bigot.
His comment was based on the article being from the SFGate, not the actual place the incident happend. It was also a correction of the uninformed statement that it, "went off" as if it magically did it, rather than being the result of a complete idiot. I don't think anything patriot said is bigotry. SF is known for gay people and hating guns. Can't handle that?
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There is no doubting the tragedy of an unintentional death like this involving negligence. If you could scan all police reports for this date nationwide you'd find who knows how many more with a variety of circumstances. The CDC says that in 2009 there were approximately 323 "unintentional injury deaths" per day in the US. The daily figure since then is most likely close to this give or take a few.
So why does a unintentional injury death in PA get press in San Francisco? There will undoubtedly be such deaths this very day in San Francisco that will go unreported. Why does one 2,700 miles away deserve mention, what about it made the editors at SFGate.com think it was newsworthy?
Of course you and I know the answer. At this point I could get preachy but I won't.
Because the liberal media in CA sucks. I live hear so we hear crap like this all the time. It keeps the sheeple in fear of the evil black gun.
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That's a nice video. It does look like she kicks a bit. Once finals are over I'm off to the range to shoot my new V-12. I shoot a Livermore Rod & Gun Club. They recently did a large expansion and it wasn't enough. If you arrive 10 minutes after they open on a Saturday you will be waiting to get a lane.
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The gun "went off". Typical.
It was DISCHARGED it didn't fire itself.
Typical for SanFagFranCisco.
It was in Mercer, PA. I guess that makes you stupid twice, once for not being able to read, twice for being a hate mongering bigot.
FYI in CA they have a lot of stupid laws, one of the laws that may not be so bad is a safe handgun certificate, the written test is super easy, but they do a safe handling test were you must demonstrate proficiency in handling your pistol safely. It's rare to hear about this kind of accident in this state.
Like they said in the military: It's always loaded, keep your booger hook off the bang switch.
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I just got a See All. It was $122, so slightly over your budget. It has no batteries. It's very visible and works fine with both eyes open. I pickup my VEPR-12 this week and will be mounting and testing it soon. So far all I've done is stick it on my AR and it seemed pretty good. Looks very solid and seems like it would take some effort to screw it up. The FSB blocked forward visibility but it worked fine. I expect no issues.
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Well Done Sir!
Did you do anything to increase the power?
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The See All just showed up. It looks good. It appears to be very durable, the frame is monolithic and very solid. I don't get to pickup my VEPR 'til Monday so I test fit it on my AR. I don't have the recommended riser so it's definitely too low without it, the FSB blocks your view but with both eyes open it was still usable. Your eye has to be in the right position before the reticle comes into view, I don't expect it to be an issue once I have a little time using it. I will say other RDS sites I've used the reticle pops into view a bit sooner, but you'd have to do a side by side comparison with similar weapons and different sights to really know.The manufacturer claimed it worked fine in low light, I'm not sure. Looking into my dark garage from a well lit room I couldn't see much but I expect if I had a weapons light it would work. I don't intend to use this at night so no big deal. I'm anxious to mount it on my VEPR and try it out. I liked the idea that it was durable, I don't have to turn it on, and there is no battery to go dead. I suspect this thing may be on par with an Aimpoint for ruggedness, there just isn't much to break.
The bad news is I have a midterm Monday, finals the week after that, and then I get on an airplane to visit my folks for a week. This means I won't be shooting it until Dec. 22 or 23. I will start a new thread and post my experience after that. If anyone is anywhere near Livermore, do holler.
I also Ordered the See All ... hope to be testing next week
I'll be in WA on the 15th...
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I'm a purist.
http://kalinkaoptics...side-mount.html
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http://kalinkaoptics...crew-mount.html
This ISN'T an LED HUD system. Apparently, it's a genuine laser HUD optic..
I love the Russian Kobra but the dang thing costs more than my Saiga...so I don't see it going on there. That is also the only thing I currently own that has a side rail. I do like the other sight, $199 seems pretty good, it reminds me a lot of a C-more. The fact that there is only 1 review isn't reassuring. I obviously have something in hand now, but if I don't love it I'm sure I'll be looking for something else. I like the choice in reticles. It might be great on my AR. Russian site on U.S. gun? Why the F not? If I get a VZ-58 this will definitely be considered.
edit: I just reviewed the specs, the battery is a common size but the battery life sucks (50 hours) It's too damn easy to leave a RDS on, and then find a dead battery...which blows if you really need to shoot something.
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The See All just showed up. It looks good. It appears to be very durable, the frame is monolithic and very solid. I don't get to pickup my VEPR 'til Monday so I test fit it on my AR. I don't have the recommended riser so it's definitely too low without it, the FSB blocks your view but with both eyes open it was still usable. Your eye has to be in the right position before the reticle comes into view, I don't expect it to be an issue once I have a little time using it. I will say other RDS sites I've used the reticle pops into view a bit sooner, but you'd have to do a side by side comparison with similar weapons and different sights to really know.The manufacturer claimed it worked fine in low light, I'm not sure. Looking into my dark garage from a well lit room I couldn't see much but I expect if I had a weapons light it would work. I don't intend to use this at night so no big deal. I'm anxious to mount it on my VEPR and try it out. I liked the idea that it was durable, I don't have to turn it on, and there is no battery to go dead. I suspect this thing may be on par with an Aimpoint for ruggedness, there just isn't much to break.
The bad news is I have a midterm Monday, finals the week after that, and then I get on an airplane to visit my folks for a week. This means I won't be shooting it until Dec. 22 or 23. I will start a new thread and post my experience after that. If anyone is anywhere near Livermore, do holler.
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I started the DROS on my V-12 last Friday. It looked great. A couple of the gun store employees were eyeing it lustfully. The trigger felt good for never fired and made in Russia. If there any issues, they haven't shown up yet. The rail looked straight. The top cover is a tight fit in a good way. I can't wait to get her out of jail and pop her cherry.
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I went with the FastFire III. So small and lightweight, it's like it's not even there.
What muzzle device is that?
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I just ordered the See All. I'll share my experience with it...I like that it doesn't need batteries and it's made in the U.S.A.
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I pick my Vepr up this week, its my first gun of any type. I was thinking about getting a LEUPOLD VX-1 1-4x20mm Shotgun/Muzzleloader Scopes. Anyone have any experience with this scope?
You need to think about what you are doing with the gun. I intend to do some competitive shotgun shooting which means everything from slugs to clays to moving targets. Most scopes are useless once you do anything past slugs.
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The Primary Arms sight seems to be sold out. I may go with the TRS-25 because I can find it, and I'm broke after buying the VEPR. I like the FastFire and the C-more...but the price on the TRS-25 is pretty nice. If it's not all that I'll throw it on my 10-22 and buy something better for the VEPR. The only negative I see with the TRS-25 is the smallish 3 MOA dot.
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I use an RCBS Rock Chucker I inherited. So far I load for oddball cartridges like 7.5 Swiss. I do prime on the press but I may get a hand primer. I do want to do more volume loading for stuff I shoot more of and I haven't decided yet between the Lock-n-load AP or Dillon.
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waiting for video impatiently...
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LOL, awesome thread. I love what happens when you mix alcohol, tools, and a redneck...somethings coming apart. I'm surprised it still looks stock. Does it kill Yellow Jackets? I'm getting one of these...
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Glad to find this thread as I was wondering about 922r compliance. I was reading that most of the S-12 furniture will work with a bit of fitting at most. I'm digging something other than all black so a new PG, stock and hand guard all U.S. made plus the 3 U.S. made parts from an SGM magazine and I should be good to go. If other peeps report an improved trigger after swapping the FCG and no ill effects to the LRBHO I will do that just for a better trigger. It sounds like 922r will be a non issue. I will be running a Poly-choke of some sort as well.
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Does the LRBHO work with the drum?
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm leaning towards running the same setup on multiple guns so it can't be too expensive. I was thinking about an Eotech 512 for my AR but to get one for all my fun guns would be way over my budget, the Fastfire and the C-more run about half what the Eotech does. Aimpoints are nice too but they are also $400 bucks and up. My first experience with red dots was a gun show special that's as worthless as hen shit on a pump handle. After that I'm also shying away from anything cheap unless it carries 5 star reviews and a few people I know online confirm the hype. I have a Saiga 7.62 and the side rail mount I bought places any optic I mount way to high, I end up needing a chin weld to see through anything on top of that POS. The idea of replacing the top cover so the sight mounts at a useful height is good. It would be great to stay with a familiar sight picture. I think I would go with a larger dot size with the VEPR 12 and the FastFire III comes in 3 and 7 MOA so that seems like a decent way to go. 3 on rifles, 7 on shotguns and pistols.
Veper 12: Lemon or POS weapon
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I shot my V-12 straight out of the box, I opened the cover, popped out the bolt and checked for obstructions, and slapped it back together. It wasn't properly cleaned and lubed, just the way it shipped. It ate high brass stuff just find but never ejected the weak low base stuff correctly. If I stepped up to hunting strength shells it worked better with only the occasional FTE. Slugs and 00 were flawless. I tried 6 different flavors of low base stuff and they all yielded the same result...FTE.
I mounted my new RTD and sighted it in with slugs and found it reasonably accurate, shots touching at 25 yards, 2" group at 50.
I took it home and cleaned it thoroughly. Next range trip I will be bringing the reduced power reduced power recoil spring from CSS. I will try a few shots with the stock spring and then swap in the reduced power spring if required.
I love this gun but I'm a little disappointed that mine won't cycle the low base stuff right out fo the box.