These rifles are flat out gorgeous! I have the 16" Saiga 308-1 that I updated a bit with new handgrip, butt stock, Z-Bolt green laser, strobing tactical flashlight, mil-dot scope. It is a bad ass rifle. But, I always wanted a VEPR 7.62x54r with 20" or longer barrel! I also have anise converted Saiga 12. I should post picks of my toys but get nervous with Big Brother Barry Odumbo in orifice, err office. He and his merry band of butt plugs make me sick. If I had my way it would be open season on libs and all Constitution haters!