philosojester

The red dot surviving the recoil was something i researched before purchase, no coincidence there. It had nutnfancy's stamp of approval and was on sale for about 80 bucks, so I went ahead. Its actually my first "optic" if it can, indeed, be styled as such. I think you're right about needing friction reduction work done. Anyone know of someone with fast turnaround of service for around 100 bucks or less?

Update: So, I tried the autoplug screwed all the way in and one thread out, it works better all the way in, but there wasn't a noticeable increase in gas since the D mod. So I decided that it was time to up the gas. I drilled the ports out to 3/32 or .093", which is the way evlblkwpnz runs his, if I am not mistaken. I now have 4 ports at .093 and I tuned the autoplug today. It just got reliable on the #8 bulk pack winchester as I bottomed out the screw on the autoplug. This would suggest that my gun is now gassed just sufficiently enough to run #8 bulk on the tightest autoplug setting.

Something that was recommended to me before considering a polish job is the drop bolt test. I thought I might need a polish, but this demonstrated that I did not. Could save you a hundred bucks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk9xxlCUyDU When you say work on the gas ports, I hope you mean the D mod, this should be considered before considering opening up the actual ports in the barrel. http://forum.saiga-1...cked-gas-ports/ Keep in mind that I am a newbie too, but I just got a lot of my questions answered in thread I put up a week or two ago. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/

Beautiful. Thanks

Yes, I know that it is at the same exact spot and one thread's pitch less forward. When the autoplug is as far in as it can be while still landing on the detent it is properly aligned (the slot lines up), BUT it is exactly one thread's pitch too far forward and is partially obstructing the port. When I back the plug out one revolution it sits flush with the port. Look at the picture in post #53 You are looking at the bottom of the gas block, so that the outermost orifice is the sling mounting hole. The next orifice in is the gas block orifice where the ports of the barrel would be. You c

In order for the slot in the auto plug to be lined up with the "port" in the gas block, I need to back it out one thread. Installed correctly, the plug is cutting off part of the "port" in the gas block and therefore partially obstructing the ports. But backed out 1 thread it sits flush with the port.

This leads me to believe that the "D" mod for the gas block might be unnecessary and that I might be able to get it to work by simply installing the autoplug and leaving it 1 revolution out. Does this seem feasible? This would mean that the problem is not with the gas block orifice, but with the threads on the front of the gas block where the regulator screws in. It is known that the thread starts for this area are random, could mine be far enough off to cause a problem in this fashion? I don't really want to file my orifice because it is so close to the threads already.

Okay so I took my saiga 12, which I have now named Korsakoff, out to the range earlier this week and ran through it, #8 shot , high velocity #6, #4 buck, #2 buck, and 00 buck. #8 Failures 5/5 #6 Failures 0/5 (high velocity shot) #4 Failures 5/5 #2 Failures 2/5 00 Failures 2/5 I took the gas block off today and the shadow on the barrel that indicates where the gas block orifice is shows that my ports aren't being blocked by the gas block, at least not very much if at all. I remember one of my possible problems was the gas plug cutting off too much gas on setting 1, which would

I am in Jackson, Michigan. If anyone lives nearby and wouldn't mind taking a look at it, PM me. Beers will be on me. I plan on opening up the aforementioned orifice (can't believe I just wrote that), there is a stickied thread about modding the gas block and I plan to follow those instructions if my next shooting test doesn't work out well. Btw, I saw your 8" on YouTube...the shotgun, that is. It was magnificent. The wife calls it my "mistress" because when I look at it my eyes brighten up. She loves it too.... I suppose we have a love triangle going on ETA: Try to keep the

I am in Jackson, Michigan. If anyone lives nearby and wouldn't mind taking a look at it, PM me. Beers will be on me. I plan on opening up the aforementioned orifice (can't believe I just wrote that), there is a stickied thread about modding the gas block and I plan to follow those instructions if my next shooting test doesn't work out well. Btw, I saw your 8" on YouTube...the shotgun, that is. It was magnificent.

Update I did the bolt test mentioned earlier and to my surprise it dropped right out, anyone have anything to say against the validity of this test? Also did some probing with a Christmas ornament hook and found a fourth port almost completely covered by the gas block so instead of having half a port blocked on a three port saiga, I have one and a half ports blocked on a four port saiga. Checked the crimp on those 000 buck rounds that FTEd and they look normal according to my gun nut uncle, but to me they looked longer than the Winchester AAs I had fired by a couple of centimeters. Could

Bolt drop test. I tried looking it up but found nothing relevant. Are you asking me if I have dropped my bolt to see if it is still functional after falling on a hard surface? Forgive my confusion. Nevermind, I found what you were taking about. From how it has felt hand cycling the bolt I don't think it would pass, but I'll try it out ASAP.

It cracks me up that you think that it helps. Gentlemen, no need to start a flame war. I think we can all agree that lube in the gas tube (can't believe that I just wrote that) isn't beneficial to the system as it causes an accelerated accumulation of filth, but is likewise unlikely to cause problems in a system in fewer that 10 shots. It simply wouldn't be able to accumulate filth quick enough to affect operation that soon.

Wow, gunfun. Thanks. I'll do just that. Just to be clear, it is not likely that the problem is caused by the plug? I thought I read that the thread start was random and led to vast variances in the amount of gas blocked by setting 1.

Bolt drop test. I tried looking it up but found nothing relevant. Are you asking me if I have dropped my bolt to see if it is still functional after falling on a hard surface? Forgive my confusion.