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http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_akdal_mka_1919_p4.php
Review the above website for detailed information.
My gun is fairly new and a little stiff. Once I've pulled the the handguard, the gas regulator nut and spring, I keep tension on the barrel and rack the bolt back and forth until she comes loose. On mine, the bolt needs to ride forward within the barrel extension to come completely loose.
The first time I pulled the barrel, it was real tight. Gets better with use.
Bill
(Anubis got his post in while I was slowly typing. He has a lot more experience with these than I do. Go with the experience.)
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I am also thinking about a slight downward angle on the stock.
A downward angle on your stock will force your recoil point substantially lower than bore center, the end result will be increased muzzle rise. The closer your stock is to bore center the flatter your muzzle rise will be.
Other than it would look rather stupid, has anyone raised the angle to see how much benefit can be derived?
If its helps enough, I bet the 3-gunners would jump on it, stupid be da****.
Bill
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It's not a problem at all for me but you have those immature firebird employees that have to be haters. Guess Jim was not clear the first time when he said his employees would not be involved it this shit anymore.
I guess they gotta talk big since they can't answer the phone or come close to shipping product in a decent time frame.
What's with all the attitude? I came to this forum to learn as much as possible about the MKA 1919 and when I can help, share a little of my experience.
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Silly question ... why not just fill a buffer tube with lead or concrete to add weight. heck even sand would work
I've added lead to the buttstock of several sporting clays guns. In my case, the guns were plenty heavy already and it was to change the balance to make the guns a little more butt heavy. These are wooden stock Brownings.
Adding weight to the MKA 1919 will help with recoil. Where you add that weight may adversely affect the balance, but that goes to personal preference. Adding weight inside an aluminum buffer tube may cause problems with the tube itself. I've never tore one up, but I just do not know how strong the threads on that tube really are.
I have my MKA 1919 running reliably with Remington Gun Club 1200 fps / 1-1/8 oz loads and the recoil is not all that bad. The lighter 1145 fps / 1-1/8 oz loads will run about 80% of the time and those are very low recoil. Winchester, Federal and Estate shells have so far come up short.
Add the weight for a 15 rd magazine, the gun is beginning to get a little heavier than I think most would want for 3-gun. And I'm not sure I would see much benefit from recoil reduction systems or the addition of unnecessary weight with the lighter loads.
Bill
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Is it just my copy of the manual, or can anyone find any reference to the drive block in their MKA 1919 manual.
There is no reference to pulling it to clean the gun or even a picture of it on the schematic diagram of the gun.
Or is this part some sort of Turkish secret weapon?
Bill
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I went with the enidine shot shock for the wife's shotty.
I was looking into a enidine buffer tube but i heard a few people with S12's that had a enidine tube were having cycling issues. so i was hoping someone else would be the guinea pig and put one on a mka then give us a review...
My thoughts exactly. I'm concerned that a MKA 1919 and Enidine Buffer combination would require hotter loads to cycle reliably. If so, that would negate any benefit.
So If someone has or had one on a MKA 1919, please share your experience.
Bill
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Thanks for the pics, hope our next ones that come in are the XN version.
Those arms look quite a bit wider. and the connector plate between the two is thicker.
Will the new "XN" version drive block fit the pre-"XN" guns or will there be two style blocks to choose from?
Thanks.
Bill
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Good to know. I'm still in the break in stage so a little early for me to say what ammo works 100% and what really sucks in my gun.
I went to Gander Mountain yesterday and picked up one box of just about everything that was 12 gauge and low brass. Will keep track so I stand a better chance of finishing a stage or two.
I do know that this gun is way too light to make a steady diet of hot 3" loads. They cycle beautifully but this is the first time in 45 years I came back from the range with a nice bruise on my shoulder.
Bill
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Someone mentioned that the triggers on the older version were plastic.
This is a metal trigger on the" XN", maybe that was one of the upgrades.
That would definitely be an upgrade, as is the larger mag button.
Bill
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My Firebird regular forend arrived today. Nice piece of kit. There was a new rod included with the kit. Does this count as one (1) or (2) 922r parts (handguard + rod)?
Interesting question. The BATF letter to Kevin Cumbie lists the operating rod and forearm / handguard as two foreign made parts. The MKA 1919 Owner's Manual lists this rod as the "Operational Rod".
I considered the bolt carrier to be the operating rod but some may feel the MKA 1919 Manual carries some weight. To be safe I'd call it one part and add a few more US made parts from the list to be sure.
If you spent all those dollars on the Firebird handguard, surely a few more dollars to get a nice trigger pull (change out the hammer + disconnector + trigger) would not kill you. That will definitely get you down to 10 foreign made parts or less.
Just my opinion.
Bill
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Is the problem with interchangeable parts a problem for only the "latest and greatest" version of the MKA 1919 that has "XN" on the side, or does the slightly earlier guns with no "XN" on the side but an "XN" at the end of the serial number also have problems?
I notice that your gun has the enlarged mag release button. Did it come like that or did you add it?
Bill
I just picked me up a 1919 at the local gun show
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Looks like the Surefire 12 rd magazines are getting out to the suppliers. Got some that I back-ordered in this past Wednesday. Then last night got another batch on a back-order from another vendor. Forgot to cancel the second one but now that I've got them, I'll hold onto them for future projects.
Bill
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I want to say someone makes a core that takes BAD ASS levers. Maybe Firebird.
I spoke to Gentleman Jim and he advised that they have the steel "core" and the levers from Battle Arms Development (BAD) to make the safety an ambi.
My MKA 1919 is a 922 Compliance gun from Centerfire Systems fitted by Firebird with Firebird Precision's FCG which includes the left side BAD handle and steel core. All I need is the right side handle and a small allen wrench to install.
Bill
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links wont work
The link for the ProMag website still works for me.
The Midway USA link went to a detailed description of the MKA 1919 10 rd magazine but it appears they pulled it off the website. Still shows the mag at $32.99 and its "coming soon" just no other information.
Bill
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Will never be cool enough to be a Snap-On though.
With that avatar, you underestimate yourself.
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Per ProMag's website, their magazines are American made. If so, their mags will count as three parts towards 922R Compliance (Mag Body, Floorplate & Follower).
It good to see more folks are taking notice and willing to invest capital in the MKA 1919.
Bill
http://www.promagindustries.com/
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Take that C-More off that thing before someone tries to shoot it. Instant collectible. (And nice urban camo.)
Bill
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who can you order the 15 rd. kits from ?
A new item from Firebird Precision, Jim has developed a coupler and spring that the MKA 1919 buff can use to mate a MKA 5 rd (3") magazine with a Surefire (SGM) SaIga-12 12 rd magazine. End result will be a reliable and affordable 15 rd magazine.
Check out Jim's videos on You-Tube. He posted a demonstration of the new mag. An extra bonus, the Surefire mags are US made so the new floorplate counts as an additional 922 compliance part.
Bill
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Does anyone offer an ambi-safety for the MKA 1919?
As an alternative, has anyone drilled and tapped the factory safety and added a lever like the ones offered by Brownells (part # 452-000-069)?
Bill
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How about status on the 15 rd conversion and springs?
Can sufficient material be removed from the front of the follower with sandpaper to work with the conversion?
Can they be ordered now?
Thanks.
Bill
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What was the price on those?
Got a bunch of AK-74 mags i'm trying to sell to fund some upgrades...
The price will depend on how many are ordered. An estimate of $300 was posted somewhere by Firebird.
Bill
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Most accurate and consistent off-the-shelf factory slugs for my gun have been Brenneke Black Magic Magnum 3" (100yd) 1.8" 5 round groups - and GECO Coated Competition Slug 2 3/4" (150yd) 2.9" 5 round groups.
But I've been building my own slugs lately that are giving me, 1.9", 5 round groups @ 100yd, with the occasional flyer. They're basically a 1 1/8 oz. Black Magic knock-off with a rounded shoulder, wad and slug are sprayed with MolyKote and loaded into Cheddite hulls that have a light dusting of mica wad slick inside and 31.5 grains of Alliant Unique.
Are you using a rifled choke to get that kind of accuracy? I figured 4 or 5 inches at 50 yards would be great. But under 2 inches at 100 yards is more than I ever hoped for.
Bill
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The Firebird TAC-12 aluminum lower is currently in production and will be shipping in roughly 45 days.
Will this first run have enough lowers to fill orders for everyone on the waiting list? [i hope, I hope, I hope.[
Bill
Got the XN model in today
in MKA-1919
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I thought they were the new models that came out last fall and include "XN" in the serial number; however, someone posted a more recent model that on the right side of the upper receiver has the marking "MKA 1919 XN".
Bill