[SGM 5 and 10 RD Mags Really Tight...]

Wow! Thanks for the quick answers. Appreciate the info. Its a bit too cold for shooting right now as it is so letting them sit with full will work just fine. This forum is like a magic lamp filled with info!

[SGM 5 and 10 RD Mags Really Tight...]

I recently got my non stock mags for my Gen 1 Saiga. I havent fired it yet, but after loading the 5RD Mag into the gun with the bolt closed (no BHO). I find it pretty hard to charge. After Pulling back the Bolt I noticed it left a small groove in the shell. judging from the amount of force required to charge it I am just going to guess it won't cycle. Has anybody experienced something similar to this? Is there anything I can do? I have a Gen 1 unconverted Saiga 410. The factory mags work just fine. I am using 3" Winchester SuperX Slugs. Any advice would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

 

DM

[Izhmash Saiga .410 History]

My guess is that the receiver was a 1993 that Izhmash exported in 2001 with a modern gas tube, hence why it still has no BHO.

I thought about that as soon as I posted...

[Izhmash Saiga .410 History]

How is it you have a Gen 2 Saiga manufactured before either of our Gen1's? I'm guessing the manufacturer year is incorrect?

[Looking for .410 Surefire 10 Round Mags]

_{Finally got one on GB! Patience truly is a virtue.}

 

_Thanks!

[Izhmash Saiga .410 History]

I agree. This can be used as a good source of information for 410 owners. I have found this forum and its users to be very helpful in finding parts and understanding compliance issues.

[Izhmash Saiga .410 History]

I'll Play.

 

Manufacturer Year (Prefix): 094

Importer: Port St. Lucie, FL (1994-1996(?)

Import Year: No stamp

Gas Plug: Single Setting

Gas Puck Style: Old

Recoil Spring Dust Cover: None

Bolt Hold Open: None

[Looking for .410 Surefire 10 Round Mags]

If anybody can point me in the right direction for a 10 round mag. Haven't had any luck...

[Looking for .410 Surefire 10 Round Mags]

Unfortunately, I didn't win. Went for a fair price too. I've seen them show up on eBay intermittently. Will keep looking, but if anyone else is willing to sell don't be shy!

[The Saiga Saga - The Adventures of a GEN1 .410 to a Kushnapup]

Wow. Thanks for sharing. I too have a Gen 1 .410 and have found many things need some adjusting when trying to convert. The Tapco stock, was the only piece that was effectively bolt on. Everything else I have done required filing, a drill press, grinder, etc...

[Looking for .410 Surefire 10 Round Mags]

Thank you, sir!

[Looking for .410 Surefire 10 Round Mags]

I am trying my darndest to get my hands on one SGM 10 Round mag for my .410. If anyone can point me in the right direction or is willing to sell me one. I have a confirmed Paypal account and can pay immediately.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

DM

[Do I have a Gen 2 Saiga?]

Look at your gas adjustment knob. If it has 2 settings you have a Gen 2 Saiga. The gas cylinder is slightly smaller on the Gen 1 and it only has one setting. It's designed for 3" rounds only.

[Pistol Grip and regular 4rd Mag...922r. What must I do?]

I was able to find some Surefire 5 rd Magazines from Mississippi auto arms. This should put me at even for 922r and still keep me legal to hunt. I am going to put a US made choke on it at some point and I am still looking for a forearm that will work with the Gen 1. If anyone has any info on that I would be greatful.

 

Thanks!

[Pistol Grip and regular 4rd Mag...922r. What must I do?]

@Kurokaze. That's kind of what I thought. Looks like that will be my next step.

@akastormi. You are definitely correct in this. It just seems the gen 2 customization stuff is a lot easier to find.

 

I am just being lazy and didn't want to get too mechanical in the conversion. I'll take alook at replacing the trigger group and see how comfortable I am with that. Thanks for the info I appreciate it.

[Pistol Grip and regular 4rd Mag...922r. What must I do?]

I recently purchased a Saiga .410 from a private owner and was interested in doing some conversion to it and found out about the 922r compliance issues. I am a hunter and thats what I intend to use this shotgun for. I have a Gen 1 .410 stamped '94 so it has the nonadjustable gas plug and only fires the 3" shells. I only plan on using the 4 rd factory magazines as I have 3 of them but I do appreciate the form factor and ergonomics of an adjustable stock and pistol grip. Now from what I have read, the minute I throw a pistol grip on the gun it is no longer considered a sporting rifle/shotgun and fallls under the 922r regulations. Because this is a Gen 1 Saiga .410 I am really limited to what I can add/replace to make it compliant with the rules. I have found many forearms for the Gen 2 Saiga; no such luck finding anything for this one.

 

Any tips, leads, or help in my (mis)understanding would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks!