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I think that there was a little more pressure required to seat the cover into its clips(possibly preventing gear from moving fore and aft). That is about the only thing I noticed different. The fit into magwell was the same(no filing,tight fit fore and aft,some side to side slop). Also spring tension seemed a little lighter on new drum. Without knowing what tension was on defective one, hard to tell. I am just glad the new one works as well as most users report. It sucks doing the homework to find something that should work well and then doesn't. MD 20 still working perfect.

I received a new drum a couple of days ago, and took it out today for a test drive. I tested the drum with some federal multi-purpose loads(which have miraculously appeared in my neighborhood box store as of late). Winchester "universal" as well. I guess they don't want hunters shopping elsewhere during pre-hunting season. Seems almost choreographed. So, the drum dumps went so smooth I will probably pay somewhere else down the line HaHa. I am very happy with this mag. I have to admit a little disappointment when the first one didn't work right the first time. So here are a few pics. of the new

I know that it seems that the spring would not have enough room to slip those ends out of the mag. body and or gear but it definitely did it. But only after firing and then slipping out during reloading of drum(a few rounds in then unwound spring). I tried a couple of different tensions as well with same results. So I sent it back for an exchange. I will post again when I get new drum and test it. I will also take new drum apart and log spring tension and spring location on gear and body of drum. You can also see in the pic of the drum body the pin location for spring.

So I took this drum out to test again after resetting spring tension to 2 turns. The drum worked really well during firing but spring unwound itself again during reloads. I also tried a couple of other tension setting with same results. Its going back to seller tomorrow for exchange. Here are some pics. of mag components. You can see the scraping on the drum housing caused by spring unwinding.

I notice that this problem occurs after shooting and then going to reload. So I believe that under recoil(shooting) that spring is moving or compressing enough to start to come out of the hole in gear that it goes into(could be some tolerances are off on base or cover). But it is unwinding upon reloading mag. Everything seems to be in normal condition(spring, gear, and holes for spring mount. I reset spring to 2 revolutions(i will test this setting later). Then decide to send it back or keep it. I think by the hard start to reload it was a little tighter from factory. But since it unwound itse

CBC group looks to be an ammo manufacturing machine. Thanx for the link.

I hope someone can help out with a problem I am having with a brand new promag 12 round drum I just purchased. When I first loaded It it was pretty stiff(a lot more effort than MD20) getting the dummy round to start moving downward into mag to load it. I had to push on it w/finger to start it then push with first round. So I took it out and it worked really well until I went to reload it after a drum dump.While I was loading it the spring unloaded itself inside mag. So I took it apart and I noticed that the spring was set in the mag so tension was going against coil wraps of spring. I don't t

Herters is almost all Czech Republic made ammo made by S&B Sellier & Bellot. The former Czechoslovakia is full of minerals and they produce quality materials and machining. VW makes their cars there with Skoda. Their steel ends up in Japan and Germany to be rebranded Krupps and Hitachi. Not much is known about eastern europe over here but I have been there several times and they have shown to be top competitors after they got rid of the communist crap that they hated so much. You will find all their ammunition to be high quality, consistent and a bit hotter than normal stuff over h

Herters select pheasant #4 are working just fine in MD20.

I definitely agree with you on the quality vs price. Not stinky or gummy(if that makes since) and probably very good on some hunting for small to med. game birds(chukkar, pheasant, or mountain quail). Late season long shots in my area. Our hunting is fairly wide open spaces not a lot of trees.Out of any o/u, double, or decent auto it should be good. As far as dangling that much buck shot that low under a gnarly recoiling beastly serpent of a shotgun, to each their own.hahaha PS go shoot that thing!

Done. I listed the UPC from the individual box. I noticed that the case carton had some different #'s. If it helps I also have these loaded into my MD 20. They loaded up without a hitch. I will test a box and then revise the info. Thanx for your help earlier on with my 12. It is now converted and flat out smokin. Anyone that gleans the good info found here should be thanking the pros and others for what they offer. Priceless!!!

I also picked up herters select pheasant #4 same as you pictured. I took some out today and ran it through a brand new unused pro mag 12 round drum. It ran flawless(in theory it should run fine through my MD 20). The cool thing is that it ran on the #2 setting of my dph 6 setting gas adjuster(plug) which will run my S&B 2 3/4 12 pellet 00buck loads that I keep loaded in my stick mags. So all mags are loaded and usable at any time with my current plug setting. Happy days. Too bad cabelas raised their prices already on this particular load. I dont see any problems at all with this ammo being

That would definitely work.....quick curbing of snow goose problem. lmao

Just shot some Fiocchi 2 3/4 #4 buckshot today with great results(0FTE/FTF) . -S12 dph gas plug on #3(converted) -Agp Gen3 10 rd mag -50 degree temps This stuff ran great in my S12 Im not sure if this is same ammo type, but it worked great in mine. Another example of big differences in S12's. The only rounds so far that have given my S12 any problems were Winchester "super speed" 7/8 oz. loads(2/ 34). Not enough poop in front of the powder.

Your SBE is going to be really hard to beat in the duck/goose blind. One of the best for that task IMO. And I love my Saiga 12!