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Yes in NY. We are OK with HP and SP legally, in fact need it to shoot in most NY ranges. Would never use unless absolute clear cut certain life-death situation; I am an attorney and quite familiar with ramifications oi use, but, the legal system is not gun user friendly no matter what the situation but, I will not die to not have legal trouble. Better alive and face a prick DA than dead and face worms. Have a tricked out shotgun, (and pistol on the way), but prefer the 7.62 for more flexibility for home def, God forbid ever needed.

I am considering investing in some sort of bulletproof vest, or body armor, in case of SHTF scenarios, or increasing home self-defense in case of civil unrest and such, God forbid. I am moving towards some sort of vest that offers a level II protection, with the capability of heavier inserts for level III or so protection. Any ideas, thoughts, etc.? I'd like to keep the plates to possibly be inserted light in weight, any idea of the best company to get bulletproof vest and body armor, etc.? Appreciated

I came across a couple of YouTube videos that I found interesting. Interesting related conversation here too, especially about the corroding of un-coated ammo. http://ingunowners.com/forums/ammunition-reloading/160888-wolf-vs-wolf-military-classic-2.html And this: http://ak47talk.blogspot.com/2010/06/762x39-guide.html I own three Saiga sport unconverted rifles chambered in 223, 7.62×39, and 308. I have mostly stocked up and been plinking and have for hunting and sport and personal home defense, (God forbid ever actually needed), mostly Wolf military classic hollowpoint. Pr

Yup Leaving as soon as I can Cannot yet BTW, IMO, there will be no where to go to soon

I am doing that MoparAnd already own a Saiga 223 and a Saiga 308, and a shotgun, and a 22, and a pistol on the way The 7.62 is my primary and I do wish it in wood stock and rail; focused on fining a set is all I am getting a 50 cal to when I get the $$$ up Which 50? It would have to be bolt action. Semi is not allowed. Even if you found one without a pistol grip it needs a muzzle brake and that's not allowed. HMMMMMM From what I can tell 50's are allowed. I hear what you say thought; good points. So what 50's would be legal in NY? PM sent

Update: I did purchase a replacement brand-new 7.62. Fired off 200 rounds, through all 10 magazines I own, it shoots perfectly, no jams. Now I have a 7.62 and a 223 that are shooting perfectly. The 308 is still jamming; that will be addressed next. Once the 308 is fixed, I will post it, and meanwhile want to thank you all for your input.

I am doing that Mopar And already own a Saiga 223 and a Saiga 308, and a shotgun, and a 22, and a pistol on the way The 7.62 is my primary and I do wish it in wood stock and rail; focused on fining a set is all I am getting a 50 cal to when I get the $$$ up

Anyone know for sure if this is legal in NY? http://www.troupsystems.com/saiga.htm

OKAY!

Thank you BUT just being honest I am now frustrated insofar that I have searching so hard and did not see that. They are very hard to find and you have been very lucky. Not sure that will happen again. May be impossible. You were fast and caught it somehow. But good for you!

That is correct

I also live on Long Island I am limited to 10 round mags; do the AK mags come in 10 rounders? Good place to get them? Stick with factory mags correct? I agree actually I tried different Bear steel case and I think that may have been part of the issue I think lots of guys hit on many issues that probably all explain the unexlainable Fast production at factory, guns messed with by someone, etc. Knew four bad ones was near impossible

OK Ebay set out then How about this set mentioned below? -Second, also because of the muddling of so many issues in the other thread, so I can get a direct answer on this question, I am also putting this in this new thread, so I can get clear on this fast. Many people pointed to this site I am listing below, but I'm not clear, will the sporter wood stock and grip that states it is made for the Saiga shotgun on this site and page below fit on a Saiga 7.62×39 rifle? Definitely? It's $300 or so and obviously I don't want to make a mistake. Does it fit with no modification needed on th

Friend, just did not understand what you were saying and was asking for clarification. I googled PG and did not find what it was. So I asked. I googled oe and got no results so asked. Was not sure at all what you were saying about the you tube clip so asked. I DID try to avoid asking if I could fine on my own! Dong the best I can! I understand if you do not wish to answer; not a problem.

Guys, In another thread there are a lot of issues going on that may possibly muddle two questions that came up. -One is about an item on eBay right now that I require an answer for fast because the bidding is going and shall end relatively soon. I contacted this fellow on eBay and he said that he did not think this wood butt stock and rail would not fit on a Saiga 7.62×39 rifle. I do not know for sure, but I think he is wrong. Can you guys please look and tell me if you think it will fit or not. I do not want to buy it if it's not 100% certain because it's not returnable. A

if I add a bullet guide will it take standard nonmodifed Saiga factory magazines? Are AK mags the same as Saiga mags? In NY and we are limited to 10 rounds mags, with 7 bullet limit in it. But at the range we can put 10 rounds in. (No I am not making this crazy S&^% up!).

What is a PG please? What do you mean that it's designed for use without a PG, just the plastic oh oe junk? What is oe? As far the you tube video; can you please clarify what you are saying? Thanks

Entertainment law is sort of glorified contractual law, meaning we help negotiate deals, and create contracts that are binding to both parties in case of legalities. It's mostly boring paperwork. And actually it's not my forte, nor focus any longer, as I have wandered into other areas, though I still do maintain my legal status and practice somewhat. Insofar as the bit of law I do practice, I am much more passionate now about defending gun rights of good citizens against egregious tyranny in the profound restrictions being put upon the clear constitutional stated rights to bear arms. I am just

You are saying to modify the magazines if a bullet guide is put in. Does that mean that all of the many factory magazines I have all of the different caliber Saiga rifles I have need to be modified if I put bullet guides and all of these Saiga rifles? If that be the case please bear in mind that I am not mechanically oriented and I will have to have somebody else do that. As well, in a a SHTF situation, I'm not sure uncomfortable with may be having to forage for magazines that need to be modified as I would rather that any compatible non-modified magazine can be inserted and used quickly.

Now I am not gripping the magazines during firing. I also was among several other people who fired the weapons, before that malfunction, and everybody had them Jan. Are you saying that all Saiga rifles should have a bullet guide put into them to make them fire better? I am in New York State, and we are not allowed to convert. Is putting a bullet guide in a Saiga rifle a good idea without a full conversion that I cannot do? Or, can Saiga rifles fire reliably without a bullet guide?

Okay, if I may ask please: first, to be clear what you are saying, as some of the terminology I'm not aware of, are you 100% certain that that companies stock and rail will fit on a regular Saiga rifle? Second, if that be the case, that the wood stock and rail they offer it will fit any Saiga rifle, the problem still is that that stock and rail looks to be a typical AK-47 mold wherein without a pistol grip ergonomically it's going to be awkward to hold the butt stock with the hand and reach the trigger. The photograph I attached shows that the rifle I just returned had a butt stock that wa

Most of my legal career I have been practicing entertainment law, but, I am studying up on arms related issues to be able to offer the community very reasonably priced and even free when necessary legal support when agree just intrusions upon their rights occur.

Thank you but that won't work Looking for the Monte Carlo style, not the straight one they offer as the straight one with out the hand pistol grip is not going be comfortable as the Monte Carlo style Go back to the link Saiga Power posted and scroll down until you read, "NEW SAIGA SPORTER 2 pc. Shotgun Stock Set For unconverted Saiga 12 ga. shotguns". Personally, I'd cancel my order and buy the 7.62 model Legion is offering with wood furniture. Cheaper than the Ironwood furniture and the stock is removable. I did see the one that Legion is offering that you spoke of. Coup

Do you fellows know if this rifle with this particular detachable butt stock is legal in New York State? http://legionusainc.com/izsl-m-saiga-wood-7.62x39.html Or is it illegal because being detachable it is considered a military aspect beyond the detachable magazine? To me, it seems legal, but I don't know the particulars of detachable stocks. In a sense, all stocks are basically removable, particularly Saiga rifle stocks, and such. They're very easy to remove, as you guys know. This one does not seem more difficult to remove. But the law may see it differently. Any help appreciated

Thank you but that won't work Looking for the Monte Carlo style, not the straight one they offer as the straight one with out the hand pistol grip is not going be comfortable as the Monte Carlo style