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along the lines of what I was goin on about before....the difference is about 55 rounds going through the apartment building you live in. (If you are unfortunate enough to have to rent, that is, which most do in NYC) I will also add here that NYC is a place of doing business. Its like one big office. You dont bring guns into work. So they can ban whatever they want down there. I dont need, nor do I want to visit NYC for any reason. I dont like the smell, the noise, or the people there. It sounds like you need to get out of there yourself. Move north to putnam county or something, buy some

Bvamp, I'm not assuming, I'm going by what you wrote. You wrote, "Paperwork is a nessecary evil to this country, and I'll tell ya, all those gun laws they have now are fine with me." From YOUR words, it appears you are comfortable with present day gun legislation in the USA. We'll they're not fine with me. Many people would like CCW in NYC but unfortunately the permit system is one of priviledge, wealth, & connections, not a system based on citizen's rights...if you are comfortable with these gun laws, than you are comfortable with a government which is one of rulers and subjects:

Thansk for the reply guys. KYSoldier: -seems like the bolt lock back is a significant shortcoming on the 20g. I'm reading many ranges DEMAND the feature on SGs. -I've not used but am familair with Compstocks...however, do they make a version that fits the Siaga 20g? I wasn't aware of that. The general lack of aftemarket parts also seems to be a strike against the Saiga platform, particularly when there are a myriad of new and used products for other guns. Bummer. -pistol grip from the waist is no good...too Hollywood. From what I understand, shotgun accuracy, like all other accuracy,

Its been a while since I last shot (20 years), and I got my rifle/shotgun permit in NYC not long ago (yeah, NYC sucks for shooting culture, spare me the comments), my pistol license will be here any day as well. I had wanted to purchase a 12g pump for HD and general all around use, fun, but..I have shoulder injuries from years of climbing (torn cartiledge and deteriorated rotator cuffs) and no medical insurance so no fixes in the forseeable future. I had my eye on a alost new 590A1 Mossberg w/Full Vang Comp mods ($450 shipped), but I think I'm going to pass as I fear for my shoulders integri