EustaceLufgren

Hi guys, I'm looking at the non-conversion folding stock kits at mississippiautoarms.com, which include the Ace folding stock, the Tromix folder, and the Tromix non-folder, all with SAW PG. It of course uses the block on the back of the receiver. I never much loved the aesthetics of this, but I'm warming to it. If I bought the parts for a true conversion I would buy these parts: 1. Pistol Grip 2. Tromix stock 3. Tromix folding mechanism 4. FCG and shepherds crook 5. Tromix receiver block (not sure what this is called) 6. Tromix all in one trigger guard conversion piece 7. A

Quick question for Tony or anyone else that has installed this part...is there any particular trick or things to keep in mind when installing it? Does it just drop in in place? Should it be lubed at all, and if so, with what? Lastly, does one end go one way or another? Many thanks, should have mine in the mail today. Cheers!

They make a SAW style stock for FALs, I'm wondering if there exist some sort of adapter, or if it would be remotely possible to put a SAW stock on a converted Saiga 12. I think it would look pretty nice. Any thoughts?

Great, thanks! That is an excellent idea...if I could get the safety locked with the bolt open that'd be ideal. I will look into doing this...is the safety lever identical to an AK-47 lever or does the Saiga have a unique size/shape for this?

I've been waiting patiently for a metal hulled factory buckshot load...anyone got any sources? I know AIMsurplus was supposed to get them eventually. Right now the only metal hull load I know is a birdshot load...I'd rather have something more stout for that first shot, in home defense.

I'm curious...for those who are keeping a saiga for HD, as I am, how is it stored? 1. bolt closed on a live round, safety on 2. bolt closed on an empty chamber (safety off) 3. bolt locked back, magazine in 4. magazine not inserted, stored next to gun I ask because of the classic "shotgun shell gets deformed" problem with number 2, and number 1 I guess too. Right now I keep a slug as my first round and I do the second scenario. I just check up on it from time to time. I would do the third scenario (bolt locked back) but the idea of it somehow failing and slipping off and chamberin

Well, maybe your future. I don't care for them, and apparently I'm not alone. The design is not new, but still quite obscure. If your a southpaw they are pointless..... only a few of the new ones like the P-90 are ambi. Otherwise, the action and your cheek weld are one in the same... Check out the Kel-Tec RFB...instead of ejecting right or left, it ejects forward, over the barrel. Problem solved! I've been vainly petitioning they work their RFB mojo on a 12-gauge, but that probably won't happen...

Do you have any more details on what it is...what wood, any options other than just a S-12 set? I may be interested. Thanks.

striker, what is it exactly? Is it an S-12, or some other Saiga set? Thanks!

BRG3, I sent this in one of my emails which may have gotten blocked, or perhaps you quite understandably didn't have time to respond, but if you get a moment some time, I'm curious if there are particular dimensions that would be required in the base wood...obviously with your workload you wouldn't be able to take an order from me this year, but if I knew an approximate size, I could get a chunk of an exotic to make into an s-12 furniture set (stock, p-grip, foreend). Anyway, that's it, just curious. cheers!

Another quick question, at your convenience...could the Krebs front sight be put on BEHIND the bayo lug? It would lower the sight radius and look a little strange perhaps, but I assume it would be possible, right? Again, thanks, and this is not pressing so at your convenience.

Sorry to revive an ancient thread, but I noted some broken links near the end of this thread, and I was wondering if anyone else had a lug on their S-12 and had a picture of it as a whole? Just curious!

Good to know. Thank you sir!

Hi Tony, I know you're a busy guy, but I had a quick question for you concerning the bayonet lug. Is there a thread that I've missed where you discuss this possibly? My questions are as follows: How is it to install? Is it fairly simple, or is welding required? If the latter, I might have to consider (when you have more time available) your conversions, as I don't want to screw up my barrel, which I undoubtedly would. Also, does it work with the Krebs clamp on forward sights? And lastly, do you have to modify bayonets (M9, M7, etc) to make them fit on the gun? I'm want

Oops! I think I was playing around too much with my father-in-law's x39 Saiga, and I forgot the S-12 sight was different! I had seen the Krebs before, but it is just a bit pricier than I preferred, but the Mojo sight would require too much modding to be worth it, so maybe the Krebs would be ideal.

I'm thinking about getting a rear aperture to replace the near-invisible blade sight on my Yugo Mauser M24/47, and I found this site: http://www.mojosights.com/ After perusing, I noted they have an AK rear sight as well! Would this be a compatible replacement for a Saiga rear sight? Would it be worthwhile? It sounds quite nice for a shotgun, a kind of quick acquisition sight. This wouldn't be the double aperture Mojo makes, only the rear aperture. Any thoughts? Good idea? Bad idea? The stock rear sight isn't actually as bad as it could be, but hey, I don't have to tell yo

I'm game for these! I would probably just load the first round. Right now I am going to use a 1 1/4 oz slug as the first round, and hope the plastic doesn't deform too much to impact feeding.

So hows aboot the following? ACE Folding Stock Kit M/Stamped Internal $151.71 http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d FAL style pistol grip for the AK $22.49 http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d AK-47 Shepherd's Crook Replacement $17.95 http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d Single Hook FCG for the AK-47 $33.95 http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d That puts me at $226 bucks already, without even the magazine. With Tony apparently offering all this AND refinishing for not t

Thanks...so, if I want to do the conversion doing the internal block (with the modifications necessary) which one of these two would be recommended? They are designed for AKs, I believe: ACE Folding Stock Kit M/Milled Internal http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d ACE Folding Stock Kit M/Stamped Internal http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...d0f5248ba215e3d Difference is for stamped/milled receivers. I don't know much about AK style guns yet (the Saiga is my first), which one is what I need, if either?

Excellent, good to know! I guess then, my question becomes what exactly should I purchase for a grip and folding stock. blackjackbuffers.com has a Saiga compatible one listed but it uses an external block. They have a ton of AK ones, some for milled, or stamped receivers, and some listed as "internal". Is that what I might need? Thanks again, I'm getting excited about maybe doing this.

Hello guys, Given that Tony is up to his eyeballs in work, and I am not up to my eyeballs in money to pay for a nice conversion like that, I'm considering doing a conversion myself on my Saiga 12. Here is what I would like to do with it: New trigger group Folding Ace-style stock - internal hidden block required, I don't want the external block SAW style grip 10-rd mag Compliance issues aside (I'll cross that bridge when I get to it), what parts would I need to basically do the above? Giving it a folding stock and pistol grip with the internal block? I added the trigger group

Really cool! Its a shame it is so regulated, as honestly something like that would be ideal for a home defence gun...its not going to make it inaudible like the movies portray silencers, but it would reduce it to safer levels. Obviously if you were in a home defence situation protecting your hearing is not the biggest issue, but it is a concern to some people. Sound suppressors are actually a very practical product, especially for really loud guns.

OK! Just wanted to make sure...mag being plastic and all, I didn't want to do anything ill-advised. I'm a little in awe of the firepower of this gun! And what a blast to shoot!

Hi guys! I've got a stock Saiga, shot it for the first time this weekend (woowee!). I really like it, and I plan on keeping it as a home defense shotgun. My question is how best to keep it loaded. First off, I would prefer strongly not to keep a shell loaded in the chamber. This is personal preference, and I know many people prefer one in the pipe, safety on, but I'd rather not, myself. Secondly, I'd love to have the magazine already in, but something I noted when I was shooting it, I could not load the magazine in unless the bolt was locked back. At least, I couldn't do it eas

Great, that's what I need to know. May be able to shoot this on Saturday...sweet!