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Out of curiosity, how can an 8 round CZ52 mag be modified to work in a Yugo Tokarev which uses taller 9 round mags? Wouldn't that be like trying to use a Glock 19 mag in a Glock 17? Even if you dremeled a magazine catch slot in the side of the CZ52 mag, wouldn't the mag still be too short for the slot to reach the magazine release button/catch?

Very interesting info Bob, thanks for sharing. Expensive or not I still hope Tony does offers that AR style safety as an option at some point down the road. I would definitely be willing to save up the money to have Tony install one in my Saiga 12. If I remember right law enforcement agencies do transfers of Title II (NFA) firearms using a Form 5, which like a Form 3 is a tax exempt NFA transfer form.

Very interesting Bob. It's got no stock so the FBI must be planning to use it for some very specialized role. I wonder if they intend to use it as a specialty door breaching weapon, or for something else. Oh and do you happen to know if that AR style safety is just a one-time thing Tony is doing only for this particular Saiga 12, or if it is an option Tony also plans to offer in the future on his regular Saiga 12 conversions?

Okay I see now, Greg just meant the only difference is that his doesn't come with the velcro strap (I had thought he maybe meant there might be some difference in the material, or the manufacturing method, or something else).

I saw that one too, when I asked Greg if it was same as http://www.fseusa.com/product_info.php?cPath=95&products_id=339 he said its not, my friend has one thats pictured in the link, I shot it and it much better than with out it. While I havent tried the limb saver so I cant compare between the two. They sure look the same to me. Did Greg happen to say what the difference was between them? By the way for those who might be wondering, this slip on recoil pad design comes from Russia, for use by the Russian army on AK rifles with the Russian under-barrel mounted grenade launchers,

And thus the need to hold them to a higher level of behavior. Using whatever tools are needed, be it Internal Affairs, or a Civilian Review Board, etc. You have a warped sence of priority. Regardless of the state, I want to see cop shops dismantled and reformed with less capabilities. There is no need for a para-military force oporating in this country that has the ability to: 1: smash dissent 2: monitor citizen behavior 3: enforce what people put in their bodies.............. Bigsal, I couldn't agree with you more with regards to our country's so called drug

His forum member name is actually csspecs (not ccspecs), and yes he's still selling them. He's even got a website now ( http://csspecs.com/ ) that you can buy the mags through.

I wonder if hell has frozen over and pigs have started to fly too ? Sorry gunfighteruk, to a brit that probably sounds non-sequitur, it's just that the words "ATF" and "helpful" in the same sentence is something us yanks don't see very often (especially on this forum). Glad to hear a few Vepr 12s will finally get into the U.S. though, even if it is only temporarily for a shotgun match. Hopefully some forum members will be at that match and post some pictures for the rest of us.

Okay I see, so apparently there are two variations of this buttstock, one specific to the PSL and its unique rear receiver profile (and these are the versions that centerfire has and which I've seen occasionally on Gunbroker), and another variation for Saigas and other AK type longarms which have a regular AK rear receiver profile. I did a web search, but so far I haven't been able to find the second variation available anywhere, though I assume they will be available at some point later on this year, since RAAC firearms will be using them for the Saiga 12 variation shown in that NutnFancy vid

Saigatech made a similar gas block when he did is Saiga 12SU build, but I think he made just the one especially for that build.

A new polymer SVD style stock that is telescope adjustable for length has recently become available, which will work with any AK pattern longarm (including Saiga rifles or shotguns) that has a fixed stock style receiver with the trigger group in the normal AK location (i.e. a normal fixed stock AK style rifle or a converted Saiga, this buttstock will not work with a stock Saiga that still has its trigger group at the back of the receiver). This buttstock is pretty new and I haven't found any vendor that is even carrying it yet, though they are currently showing up on Gunbroker from time to tim

The gas plug (gas selector) is in the gas block right where gas gets vented from the barrel to drive the piston, and it will of course get some gas residue build up on its threads, so yes what you are describing is definitely perfectly normal.

With a 4 port gun, it seems like everything cycles on setting 1. After an extremely short break in period I haven't changed gas settings at all. It was the same case with my Saiga 12 which is also a factory 4-port gun (mine was made in 2008 and is a 19" barreled IZ-109 variant). I moved the trigger group forward and installed a pistol grip and regular AK type buttstock on it, but I didn't do any mods to it to improve its cycling ability because there just wasn't any need to. After I had broken it in a bit by shooting a couple hundred rounds of various ammo types through it, it then c

Yeah that's a picture of the Saiga 12C conversion that forum member sKott did on his Saiga 12, though he used a Russian side-folding stock and rear trunnion (5.5mm hinge), rather than a Bulgarian side-folding stock and rear trunnion (4.5mm hinge). Back in December of 2007 sKott made a post of his whole whole Saiga 12C conversion process. If you are a member of the AK forum (you have to be a registered user there to read any threads), there is a Saiga 12C conversion thread over there as well, done by forum member Tomovich back in 2006. Interestingly, Tomovich had to fab the side-fo

Yeah I almost forgot about all those other pointless, useless, BS firearms restrictions Clinton also pushed through while he was in office, though it reminds me of my peronal favorite Clintonism, when he got the ATF to declare that the USAS-12 & Stryker-12/Protecta, which had been around for years, were now suddenly Destructive Devices under the NFA. I heard Clinton even tried to get the ATF to declare that bullpup variation of the Mossberg 500/590 a DD as well, but apparently even the ATF thought trying to declare a pump action 12 gauge as a DD was a bit much. Nicely sums up just how far

In addition to the so-called AWB Clinton signed into law in 1994 (and which thankfully sunsetted in 2004), sometime during the 1990s (I forget exactly when) Clinton also signed a separate agreement individually with Yeltsin regarding firearms imports from Russia to the U.S., which effectively banned the importation of certain Russian made firearms (including, I'm pretty certain, any handguns made in Russia). This agreement is still in effect and will remain in effect unless some future presidents of both the U.S. and Russia agree to end it (so in other words it will remain in effect forever ).

Here it is, U.S. Government To Save Billions By Cutting Wasteful Senator Program. Now if only they would cut those wasteful IRS and ATF programs too .

I believe that agreement signed between Clinton and Yeltsin back in the 90s prohibits (among other things) any pistols made in Russia from being imported into the U.S.

That's because, and as SinistralRifleman mentioned...... ......, back in 2008 the ATF figured out that since they collect a manufacturing tax every time a firearm is manufactured, that they could make more money (as legitimate tax revenue of course) by just changing the definition of what manufacturing is. Its BS, similar to how the city of Washington D.C. decided to change the definition of a machinegun to also include any semi-automatic handgun that held 14 or more rounds, but the ATF is able to get away with it because existing federal laws are so poorly written that they give the

Both the main Izhmash corporate office and the Izhmash factory are located in the city of Izhevsk in Russia. On an ATF NFA form when listing the name and location of the orignal manufacturer of either a Title II (NFA) firearm that is being transferred (Form 4), or the Title I firearm that is being "made" into an Title II (NFA) firearm (Form 1), the ATF only needs the company name and the city and country the company is located in. You could include the province/republic/state and street address if you wanted, but it isn't necessary. My Form 1 for SBS'ing a Saiga 12 was approved by the ATF,

Federal law requires that the serial number be on the receiver (not on the barrel or any other part of the firearm). The Saiga is legal as imported (with the serial on the trunnion). Don't separate the trunnion from the receiver or you'll be in the deep doo-doo. Correct, I should have clarified that, thanks for mentioning it Nalioth. I probably also should clarify that for a Saiga shotgun the ATF considers the trunnion to be part of the receiver, not a separate countable part unto itself. That is why given the same configuration for both (such as a Saiga shotgun and a Saiga rifl

Like Nalioth said, just don't mess with the serial number (make sure the serial number is still legible after the refinishing and any other modifications you do to the receiver). Every other marking is just fine to remove, and any markings you want to add are also okay (as long as they don't obscure the serial number). Federal law requires that the serial number be on the receiver (not on the barrel or any other part of the firearm).

Happy birthday Max and Mrs. Juggernaut, and thanks for this great forum Max!

No reason at all why the PSL wouldn't be just fine for hunting (though depending on what the laws are in Florida, you may need to track down a 5 round magazine to meet local hunting regs). One minor note, the PSL was designed for firing light ball 7.62x54R ammo (i.e. ammo with bullets weighing 154 grains or less). Heavy ball (174 to 182 grain), or the heavier bullet hunting ammo (180 to 203 grain), is not recommended for use in a stock PSL, because it causes excessive bolt group velocity, so the bolt carrier slams into the rear trunnion too hard, causing excessive wear and tear. If you do wan

I am not a lawyer, but I definitely agree that McDonald vs. Chicago is a huge Supreme Court case with regards to self defense rights. However I'm not ready to break out the champagne bottles just yet, because while the odds look good that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of incorporation (and so apply the Heller decision to the states), depending on what level of scrutiny the court decides to apply the ruling with, the ruling may in fact only put an end to the most severe anti-self defense laws (like outright bans on firearms in general), while leaving all other slightly less severe anti-s