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The farther away the sight line is from the bore axis means your point of aim is less inline with the point of impact at any given distance along the bullet trajectory arc. A line of sight can only cross the trajectory of a bullet "the arc" no more than at two points along the curve. So if a high and a low sight line both intersect at 50 yards, the lower sight line intersects the second time along the arc closer than the high sight line will and generally the lower sight line will be closer to the actual bullet path. With some flat shooting calibers, a low sight line will keep you within a

I tried them before with no problems. The very old batches from years ago had soft primers that could set off by floating firing pins but the primers were changed to hard ones.

I been wanting to test out the various hp at steel and compare to fmj. Someone put up a video of 3/8 inch plate shot with wolf hp. I think any of these types of 7.62x39 can easily cut through a car door and stay mostly intact. For any serious penetration work, I think I would get one of my launching platforms that send off 405 to 500 grain .458 diameter bullets at 1500-2000 fps. Still interesting to see a 3/8 steel plate pierced by a 7.62x39 hollow point. The wolf hp description is shown on the actual page the video is hosted on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zke2JLYWlMc&feature=w

Your welcome.

An LEO I know was shot while wearing soft armor with a .357 service revolver at close range and was bruised really bad. With no plate, its going to really hurt. With a plate, the plate bears the impact and transfers any momentum to your body. The shove of momentum is no more than the recoil force of the gun. A .308 win versus a plate doesn't seem to have much effect against the wearer. I guess I would be curious myself to see how a slug would affect the wearer. Mythbusters did a knock down power experiment with a test dummy with a plate versus a deer slug and a military .50 ca

Russian made hollow points in this order (Most effective) Wolf MC/camo box 8m3 > Brown/silver/golden bear hp > Wolf Black box hp (least effective)

From examining the water containers and wet paper media tests I would think they are fairly close enough in performance. From the famous 2006 testing thread on theakforum there is a decently focused wet paper exit hole picture at 200 yards with 8m3. Pretty big hole to say the least for 200 yards. That hole at 200 yards is larger than the tumbling yugo fmj hole at close range in the video in in the first post. I would say that with the advent of this well designed bullet the russian engineers have made the nastiest wounding intermediate range bullet that has ever been exported to th

I seen this video a few times before and can't figure out why he is calling wolf hp 123 grains? 123 grains is the bear ammo hp.

Not the same bullet as 8m3. The surplus yugo 7.62x39 fmj is suppose to be purposely made to tumble and even so a serious tumbling mil spec round like this accounts for only enough damage to insert two fingers. The velocity is there but the mechanism is lacking to produce the most wounding possible. Increasing the frontal surface area that drags along in tissue will produce more tissue damage. Tumbling obviously increases the amount of surface area over an fmj frontal point but no where the same as with a bullet that expands widely or is torn open or into several pieces. An intact side ways mo

The brown bear hp used was video 2 shot 1. Better than wolf hp from video 1 but not near as much expanding/fragmenting as MC 8m3. If things keep moving like they are with 7.62x39, Russian ammo importers will hopefully take notice and eventually get the Russian ammo makers to produce a ballistic tip variety for export designed to work similar to vmax and hopefully at par price wise with other russian ammo. Sellier & Bellot started this and hopefully it catches on. http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/hunting-rifle-ammunitions-with-pts-bullets.php?product=19&view=all

.223 vmax on second shot decent size hole but still not as big as the earlier fist size hole 5.45x39 is less mass so it will not likely do any more damage if a 5.45 vmax bullet was used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2RjJXINRhI&feature=related

Here is a start 7n6 I will look for some wet paper tests. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gaNh-Bh1Go

someone else also did water container testing and for total depth I guess I might get some wet phone books to test 8m3 at close range and make a video.

I did on water containers. Yep it is close and less expensive 1st video shot 1 FMJ shot 2 Wolf HP shot 3 MC 8m3 shot 4 vmax 2nd video 1 Brown bear hp 2 MC 8m3 3 vmax 4 corbon hp 150 grain

Damm its hard to believe a vmax can produce 10 times the damage that a yugo fmj does and 4 times the damage a wolf soft point produces within a short pathway through media. If someone could take one of these vmax or a russian 8m3 blowing a fist size hole in their chest and still pose a threat, they would be one serious badass. I can see how fmj might not do the job on the first shot but how many people could lose that much tissue with the more serious bullet design impacts with maybe a few pints of blood lost instantly and not fall over from sudden loss of blood pressure with liquified organs

I found this video and had to guess this guy might have seen one of my vmax threads earlier this year. Yugo FMJ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3ZEfr-WcuY&feature=related Wolf sp and vmax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iUZqinYv2Y&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Under 1300 fps, a big wound path just like slugs form going through. Plenty of real slug wound profiles on this link. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=109958&start=40 At around 1300 fps, you can add the infamous "pressure wave" as termed by ballistics researcher Dr. Courtney http://www.ballisticstestinggroup.org/ballistics.htm At 1800 fps on up, all the above and now rifle like flesh liquifying with a new level of shock. The horrifying combination of fast and heavy. The only factory load I know of that achieves this velocity is Rem high velocity slugge

$12 for a box of 5 dixie tri balls with .60 caliber balls. $2.20 a shot I been wanting to pour, cast, and load my own balls or slugs with a cup. I keep seeing that tire wheel lead weights are being phased out to non-lead like for example zinc because of some new environmental law. I guess the scrap metal yards might offer the next best deal on lead.

I agree the poison bullet idea is rather silly. More people during the civil war died of wound infection days later. So I guess musket ball ammo is Mc Super Sized poison bullet.

All my 7.62x39 hp or bt ammo blows shit up and does not make a nice clean .30 hole.

Once again thanks for pointing this load out. There is a thread at shotgunworld where someone used a wad wizard and his centurian defense ball and buck loads were perfectly centered with the ball in the middle. Now that two .65 ball loads exist to test, this could get real interesting. The larger the lead balls the less they spread apart and retain better velocity. I got a wad wizard to test with so now I just need a few hundred of these loads.

I just seen on the package picture 1200 fps.

Holy shit. You just made my week. Each 0.65 ball is 394 grains. Not sure of the velocity.

Wow. I guess no problem for home defense. Any attorney can compare it to Winchester's load and show it is mainstream. This is good to know thanks. Yeah that is another comparison that can be drawn from. Your honor, he used colonial era style ammunition. A musket ball just like George Washington used to defend this great nation. LOL