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beerslurpy

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  1. who cares. shouldnt let them write the gun laws.

     

    all I know about politics without getting this thread off track, is Im voting for rudy.

    Are you retarded? Rudy is the leading anti-gunner amongst all republicans. He lead the charge in gun lawsuits and in oppressive laws through the 90s. He was one of the prime republican figures pushing for the original assault weapons ban. And he never stopped pushing for national gun control except in the past couple of years.

     

    Fred Thompson will be running and he is completely pro-gun. Just yesterday he was quoting Don Kates when attacking the NY Times for misrepresenting the state of 2nd amendment scholarship.

  2. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think any of these ideas would be patentable. Unless you come up with a new drum design rather than adapting old designs to new calibers, it fails due to prior art and obviousness. The only mag designs I can think of that could be patentable in recent memory are:

    -90 round AR snail drums

    -that top mount mag for the P90

    -windable chinese drums (patent expired by now)

    -beta mag (patent expired by now I think)

    -calico rotary mags (expired by now)

     

    All of the other drums I have seen look like they are based off WWII era designs. Nothing wrong with that, just means you can't patent it.

  3. No one ever doubted the legality of drums, everyone was worried that after the drums started being produced, ATF would declare the saiga a DD.

     

    This wouldnt make anything illegal per se, but it would make saigas illegal to import and it would kill the saiga market in this country.

  4. No, it's going out of that committee into the rules committee which is not stacked full of anti-gunners but instead stacked full of rural pro gun democrats.

     

    You have to understand that:

    25 members is still only 1/17th of the house. This even close to ten percent yet. Certainly not a majority.

    The judiciary committee will pass out any anti-gun bill. It is composed of half anti-gun democrats and half pro-gun republicans. There are 1-2 pro-gun dems on the judiciary committee and 1-2 anti-gun republicans. Basically the anti-gunners have a 1 seat majority on the judiciary comittee.

    The judiciary is not the only comittee that it can get stuck in, merely the first.

    Controlling the judiciary is a lot easier than controlling the entire house, which the antigunners certainly do not do.

    The antigunners also dont control enough seats to stop a progun filibuster in the senate.

  5. Pedal2Alloy

    Yeah genius, because the ATF will never notice that you are selling drums over the internet unless you call them up and tell them beforehand. Such a fucking dumbshit. This isnt like some guy in the backwoods making an unregistered grease gun and not telling anyone- you are actually going out onto the internet and selling controversial items in public. Dont you think the ATF at least watches the major internet gun sites? How much of a secret do you think your plan to sell drums to the public will be?

     

    You are asking permission because you need permission. You need permission because the ATF told kevin that he should not make drums or they would declare the saiga a DD. How much more crystal clear can you get? That equates to a "DONT FUCKING DO IT" ruling on the drums.

     

    Your bravado will not cancel this out. The ATF doesnt give a fuck how much of a rebel you think you are beause you arent rebelling against them, you are rebelling against us. We like affordable saiga-12s. We like being able to import them. We like seeing tony rumore making a good living from working on saigas. And your little plan is going to shit on all of that.

     

    And yeah, we could fight a DD ruling and we might help fight one if it was handed down, but we would rather not have to deal with that shit because it takes years to exhaust admin remedies and then work its way through court. It is complicated, annoying and expensive.

     

    The biggest thing working in our favor is that the saiga itself, as imported, is clearly a sporting shotgun. Our modified ones are a lot more difficult to single out since they arent really manufactured by any company so much as customized by the end user or a gunsmith. I dont know if a drum would change any of this, but the ATF seems to think so.

  6. Figuring out the obvious legal repercussions of your actions before you fuck over the saiga 12 owners community is not too much to ask. From your previous posts, you obviously have no understanding whatsoever of federal firearms law OR administrative law. What youre doing isnt brave, it's stupid.

     

    When AGP got criticized for planning to make 10 rd mags, their response was to CONTACT THE ATF. The ATF said it was fine and they wouldnt reclassify the saiga-12. The ATF also said that more than 10 rounds would NOT be fine.

     

    That is all it takes to shut us "whiners" up. Contact the ATF and get their approval. Contrast AGPs actions with your actions.

     

    What you need to do is contact the ATF and ask them if they will reclassify the saiga 12 as a destructive device when you start cranking out drums. If they say no, WONDERFUL- I take back everything I have said and you can sign me up for a pile of them. If they say yes, you need to stop your plans and not bring them to market.

     

    Can you understand that? Is it too much to ask? Are we being cowardly by asking you not to make legal problems for us?

  7. to others it could be being stuck in something like Katrina, the Rodney King riots, or some other similar

     

    Dudes, that is plenty serious enough. Whether the world ends is really not important. If you are dead, the world is over for you. Something as "mild" as what happened in LA or chocolate city is more than enough to put an end to anyone's world. Lots of people died during both of those events, a good portion at the hands of their fellow men.

     

    What did it for me RKBA wise was seeing the koreans defending themselves with AK47s from the roofs of their houses and stores and not getting their neighborhoods looted. I now have an AK47 with a few thousand rounds of ammo, a few hundred of which are loaded in RPK mags and stored in a load bearing vest in the back of a closet just in case. When you're expecting a good chance of a gunfight, you want to have enough gun and enough ammo for it.

     

    And if youre expecting infrastructure problems you better have non-perishable food, water, batteries and tools/supplies to perform repairs on your house in the event of damage (fire, wind, debris, flood, etc). My (battery powered) sawzall, my hammers and vinyl sheeting was very useful during the hurricanes a few years back.

  8. I usually call back around the time I am promised something to check on status. Tony always surprised me by calling me first to let me know it was done ahead of time.

     

    As a former programmer I can appreciate that things sometimes get behind schedule. I had to be extra patient with the guy who welded all my intercooler and exhaust tubing and extra patient with olympic arms when they held my upper for ages because they didnt have uzi mags (which I didnt want anyway). As long as people just tell me honestly what the problem is, I have absolutely no grief over waiting or going without. I've been waiting something like 7 months to finish this suppressed AR15.

     

    I only ever get ticked off when people start making up stories. In the gun world, so far I have only had a bad experience with Mark at SoundTech, who is a nice enough guy until he realizes that he has bad news for the customer, at which point he starts playing the blame game. Tedious bullshit. To his credit, he was honest and returned my check with no hassles. I have heard horror stories about people getting paid for title 2 stuff all the time and running off without sending the guns.

  9. A shotgun only becomes a short barrelled shotgun when it becomes less than 26" OAL or 18" barrel length. A saiga with no buttstock and an 18" barrel is still about 27-28" long. It hasnt become an SBS or AOW.

     

    To become an SBS, you would need to cut down the barrel below 18" or cut off enough receiver to render the gun non-functional.

     

    To make a saiga AOW, you would need to bend an AK pistol receiver (it is the same as a normal AK only with different guts and barrel) and build up your saiga on it. And it would still cost 200 dollars unless you were an SOT (in which case it would be free to make and $5 to transfer thereafter).

  10. So what is everyones thought on triple ought (OOO)buckshot?I've played with it before and especially with the plated buckshot,power and penetration are awesome!

    Unless a particular load isnt penetrating far enough, you always want to use the small pellets. You can just fit more lead into a cylinder if the balls are smaller.

     

    00 works on pretty much everything smaller than a bear so I see no reason to thin out the already weak pattern of 12 or (god forbid) 9 pellet buck.

     

    Personally I would use slugs on anything too big for 00. Finding affordable 000 loads is too hard compared to 12 pellet 00 and slug loads.

  11. I havent bothered putting any glass on the saiga. I just alternate between irons and the korsak. I tried my PKAS on it and didnt really like it that much. Can't see the laser outdoors in daytime. Can see it indoors no matter how bright and outside in evenings/overcast. I personally have no gripe about the irons, at least not for 0-50m duty.

     

    Anyone know how much the BHO mod is going for, price-wise? Being able to do mag changes one handed would be a huge benefit in competition. Anyone know if there is any 3 gun in tallahassee area?

  12. He's a typical FFL that doesnt know the first thing about firearms law.

     

    An ordinary non-smoothbore pistol with a vertical foregrip becomes an AOW when you add the grip. The reason is because a pistol is meant to be held with one hand while the AOW is a 2 handed weapon. It's retarded logic, but thats what the ATF says.

     

    An AOW (smoothbore pistol) with a foregrip doesnt change into anything else by putting it on or taking it off. It's already an AOW with or without the pistol grip.

     

    A short barrelled shotgun remains an SBS till the end of time. It is a short barrelled weapon that was made from a shotgun originally. It can't become an AOW because an AOW comes from a pistol receiver only. You could make it back into an ordinary length shotgun but it would still be registered and counted as an SBS.

  13. Oh yeah, I forgot. There are adjustment wrenches that come with the gun for aiming the laser. I put them in the tapco saw handgrip with the folding bottom, along with the spare CR123 battery.

     

    Here it is. Only thing that would improve on this setup IMO is a 14 inch barrel. I wonder if that would cycle. Oh yeah, and a galil or old school AK style foreend.

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  14. The thing on the end of the wire is the activator button.

     

    The thick part of the tube contains the battery and the thin end contains a red laser LED with aiming adjustment screws.

     

    The thick end with the screws replaces the stock gas tube end block.

     

    I paid like 100 bucks plus a bunch of western union fees to send money to russia.

  15. Not really surprised. You keep the customers happy and they keep coming back for more. Shame there's only one of you to do all the work though.

     

    It just occurred to me that I could get an SBS saiga and take the stock off instead of going through the trouble of making one off a virgin receiver.

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