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For either an AK in .308 or in 7.62x39. Here is the terrain: A previously thinned timber area, now heavy woodland, with 15 years worth of small diameter tree and brush undergrowth; hog and deer heaven now. Long and narrow logging roads wind their way in a labyrinth through the 100's of acres of slow rolling terrain. After some distance, these roads lead to random wide clearings of pasture, most under 20 acres, but irregularly arranged and shaped. There are 2 separate clearings for 2 pipelines that run through the area, and the views here can be in the 1000's of yards. -Practical applications and considerations- 1) Self defense on the roads, in the timber and over the clearings. 2) Hunting in these areas, whether it be deer at an unknown range or hogs. So, what I am wanting to know, since I have been unable to find satisfactory answers, and the terra firma is of some complexity, is which of these calibers would you chose for the above conditions taking into consideration each platforms: -barrier penetration (brush, trees, unknown barriers) (it's understood .308 has the advantage) -ability for follow up shots (?) -platform weight (aren't they close with 308 being the heavier) -platform cost (x39 cheaper, significantly with mags and ammo) -maximum effectiveness in the above environment (?) Your opinions and if you would, reasons why, in case I have missed something. A brain is a good thing to pick... just not through the nose. -Thanks
Hi All. I'm new here, but I'm active on several other gun sites. I'm posting this around the horn to try and get the word out about a new resource I'm trying to get off the ground. I've setup a simple, streamlined site for tracking self defense stories in the news. Hopefully this will turn into a great place to send people who ask questions like "Why would you ever need a gun?" or "Who ever really uses a gun to defend themselves?" Anyone can submit a story. I know it's not the first site of this kind, but I've got it setup in such a way that it's extremely quick and easy for me to manage. I've also hopefully minimized copyright issues with this setup. I'm just trying to get the info out there right now, but if there is an issue with this post Mods please feel free to move or delete it. Guns Save Lives - Stories of Self Defense On Facebook: Guns Save Lives on Facebook
I just tried my Saiga 12 last night with the new Mako recoil absorbing stock on it, and I do think it did provide noticeable felt recoil reduction, more noticeable with heavier loadings like the 3" #4 turkey loads I shot. My setup was formerly the ace stock mounted to their folding mechanism and that bolted to a receiver block. My tang was removed to do that setup. I run a competition brake so already have some recoil reduction going on, but I wanted to reduce recoil on heavy loads like 3" hunting and self defense loadings, so I ordered the pig-nose adapter and a mil-spec AR-Buffer tube. Right now the folding mechanism is out because as a right side folder it looks like the stock wont fold completely before hitting the charing handle. My observations are that the stock does provide about a 15-20% reduction in felt recoil, which to me is substantial in terms of comfort and controllability. The stock seems to be well made, and functions as stated. I do think the action of the stock could be smoother, but maybe with use it will smoothen naturally. As stated I used a mil=spec stock, I would suggest the larger diameter commercial spec stock would provide a better fit to the stock, mine as set-up has slight movement as a result of the stock being sized to take either milspec or commerical buffer tubes. As I set up the stock, which was mounting the pig-nose adapter to be flush with the top of the receiver block insert (in line with the barrel) a check rest was not needed to get a good sight picture through the chaos HK style sights mounted on their rail system. I might add a small raiser like paracord or something else around 1/4", but significant elevation wasn't needed for me at least. Bottom line; good product, worked as claimed, I expect to see future generations of this come out as well as competitor products that function similarly, that would be my only thought on why I wouldn't say go out and get one