netpackrat 566 Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 At some point you have to consider the source, and whether you want to get your info from a gun publication that also does marijuana reviews: http://www.recoilweb.com/guns-weed-and-states-rights-137696.html High times at the range, indeed. Not to mention it wasn't that long ago they were editorializing against civilian ownership of military style firearms. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 I’m trying to work it out with Russell. I really don’t want any bad blood from this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 Some people, especially when they think they know about firearms, just will not accept anything other than their own predisposed notion of how something works. If I am wrong, I want to know so I don't look like an idiot one more time later on, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 It was a double feed. You can see it at 3:51. The top round was out of the magazine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 I would expect some sort of issues with a weapon that was originally designed to have an entirely different magazine system design from well over 100 years ago and has a cutting edge magazine of an entirely different design retrofitted to it. The most annoying thing about it is that the original magazine is still there in long form, lol. Really? So we need 8 to 9 rounds worth of air instead of 5 rounds worth of air? What would be wrong with using the shortest tube needed to support the handguard/slide? I don't understand it. Less is more in this case. It may only be a couple of ounces of unnecessary weigh and a minor shift in balance, but it is still a couple of ounces of unnecessary weight and a minor shift in balance, lol. Instead of configuring the weapon to make sense for the user they opt to get rid of a mountain of obsolete parts. Typical. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 8:13 AM, Sdustin said: Very well said. I hope Mossberg really doesn't just slap your mag in a 930 though. If they have any sense they will be looking to do something bigger, and more deserving of your mags. I see a folding stock, pistol grip, make two visions. One is an 18 inch shotgun the other make a really short "firearm" with folding arm brace. They have a huge opportunity here and should spend the time and money on designing and bringing a totally new firearm to market. Mike if you have any pull at all with Mossberg please in part this on them. They will opt to use leftover parts instead of designing something that makes far more sense as a product and will sell better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 20 hours ago, MikeD said: I’m trying to work it out with Russell. I really don’t want any bad blood from this. He's a good guy. Not infallible, but I suppose that goes both ways. What are you saying caused the double feed? If you are saying his explanation is wrong, then it helps if you give your explanation in detail too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 2:11 PM, gunfun said: He's a good guy. Not infallible, but I suppose that goes both ways. What are you saying caused the double feed? If you are saying his explanation is wrong, then it helps if you give your explanation in detail too. We have been talking in private. I have also forwarded his contact information on. At this time I should give them a chance to handle it together. Russel’s article for the 590M is due out in October. I am hoping a conclusion is reached in time for an update. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 8:13 AM, Sdustin said: Very well said. I hope Mossberg really doesn't just slap your mag in a 930 though. If they have any sense they will be looking to do something bigger, and more deserving of your mags. I see a folding stock, pistol grip, make two visions. One is an 18 inch shotgun the other make a really short "firearm" with folding arm brace. They have a huge opportunity here and should spend the time and money on designing and bringing a totally new firearm to market. Mike if you have any pull at all with Mossberg please in part this on them. Mossberg 930s have a buffer spring in the stock so without extensive redesign folding stock are not an option Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 1:31 AM, Boba Debt said: Mossberg 930s have a buffer spring in the stock so without extensive redesign folding stock are not an option Actually I have a semi Mossberg I converted to magfed. I did away with the rear spring and put it on the tube. Reduced about 14 parts from the gun and a half pound of weight! Made the gun more reliable, blows the gas chamber clean ever round like an AK, you can have a folding stock or sole pistol grip now. It was actually a super simple design change and superior in basically every regard to the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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