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I am very very saddened with how public life has been going lately, and all of these mass shootings that you and I could have prevented or stopped...

 

...yes i blame us.

 

not you,not me, us.

 

we have failed in our duty to teach the next generation the proper use of our tools that we love.

 

no more. I stand and I will fight this in any way I can.

 

]we dont need any more gun laws, we need sicko laws

 

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What can said besides collectivism (us) always fails.

There is not now nor ever was any "us"

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I'm responsible before God for raising my children, mine, no others.

And mine are being raised correctly so as I will not fear to stand in judgement for their actions.

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You have a plan, Ben?

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Im honestly not sure yet, but i have an idea. the age limit isnt part of it..

 

Ive been thinking aobout this very heavily with you guys opions in mind.

 

i opened the discussion first... check

 

the kids over here are afrain to touch my guns at the house.....

 

this needs to be solved by US NOW.

 

what did we skip?

 

BTW dont touch my guns

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driver's license? i dont know? i own my shitty ass place in the free and clear, so i must vote. i dunno

 

we forgot to tell the kids something......i dunno

 

this is getting out of hand already....that i DO know....

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Well, Hillary was right!  It does take a village to raise a kid!

 

It takes a village to hunt down and destroy the little monsters she created!

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Do not forget someone created Hillary so how far back you want to take the blame?

I put it somewhere a few thousand years ago.

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Do not forget someone created Hillary so how far back you want to take the blame?

I put it somewhere a few thousand years ago.

Hillary is a product of the Liberal '60s hippie culture.

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Do not forget someone created Hillary so how far back you want to take the blame?

I put it somewhere a few thousand years ago.

Hillary is a product of the Liberal '60s hippie culture.

 

Which was a direct result of the imperialist (dont even try to argue otherwise) greatest generation.

Seriously none of this just sprang up everything is a result of some failure in some generation.

 

Heck remember the parents of the greatest generation founded the Federal Reserve and elected FDR, that right thar was pretty danged silly ya know ;).

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Nevermind.

 

Enjoy the freedom I fought for.

 

 

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Nevermind.

 

Enjoy the freedom I fought for.

 

Not being a smart ass at all but what enemy of my freedom did you dispatch?

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^^^^  Some of us will tell you when the 75 year clock on that level of classification expires. Or you COULD just ask Hillary to e-mail it to you on a non secure network.

 

 "not being a smart ass"  -  no, just an asshole.

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Yeah I am asshole about some things, one of them when people spew falsehoods and call them truth.

 

Get real pissy about that, character flaw I know...

 

Now answer the fucking question

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Your politeness and social grace knows no bounds.

No falsehoods here. Just facts, something you are sorely lacking concerning my service. Let me educate you:

Active duty Army 1980 to 1991.....and still serving as a defense contractor. Pick a conflict and you've got your answer. BTDT.

I do more for this nation before lunch than most of you do all year.

 

Now climb down off your self-righteous high horse and play nice or you'll go to bed without supper...again. You could probably stand to miss a few meals anyhow.

 

I concur with G.O.B.

 

You're welcome.

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Im still trying to digest the greatest generation being imperialists 

 

BH

Bourgeoisie such as we are not privy to the secrets entrusted to the Ruling Class such as he.

 

or, to put it in the vernacular of our accuser....

 

He be trollin'

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Your politeness and social grace knows no bounds.

No falsehoods here. Just facts, something you are sorely lacking concerning my service. Let me educate you:

Active duty Army 1980 to 1991.....and still serving as a defense contractor. Pick a conflict and you've got your answer. BTDT.

I do more for this nation before lunch than most of you do all year.

 

Now climb down off your self-righteous high horse and play nice or you'll go to bed without supper...again. You could probably stand to miss a few meals anyhow.

 

I concur with G.O.B.

 

You're welcome.

 

 

I do more for this nation before lunch than most of you do all year.

Wow!

You may want to step that one back a little.

Also thank you for you service

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Some people serve this nation or their communities in one form or another.

 

These days most of the people just serve themselves.

 

If a person has done anything at all,  they have done more than most.

Patriots comment may seem extreme.....but it may also be true.

 

BH 

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That is why I thanked him!

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.Lock up the crazies, and have public hangings!

...careful... to some, anyone not fitting their liberal agenda is crazy.

 

James 1:25

“But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.” 

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I am very very saddened with how public life has been going lately, and all of these mass shootings that you and I could have prevented or stopped...

 

...yes i blame us.

 

not you,not me, us.

 

we have failed in our duty to teach the next generation the proper use of our tools that we love.

 

no more. I stand and I will fight this in any way I can.

 

]we dont need any more gun laws, we need sicko laws

We have failed by allowing communists to teach our kids in public schools, allowing them to be programmed by t.v. programming and trash movies, allowing them to listen to communist trash music..etc. Cut them off from all this from the beginning and they will never know what trash they are missing. Its like people have kids that will only eat cheeseburgers and fries from mcdonalds? Guess what? If you dont bring them to mcdonalds theyll never know what garbage food they are missing!

 

Youre right though, this whole mess of a world is ours and the forefathers fault. They should have been more specific about what our rights are and stregnthened the rules as far as making it impossible to infringe on those rights. We should have nipped alot of the civil rights crap in the bud. We should have never allowed any communist anti american ideas to go unpunished. We should have kept extremely strict voting regulations. We should have kept the proven successful formula of the traditional roles of men and women intact. We should have immediately destroyed ANY resistance to our way of life. Sometimes I believe the freedoms that have made our country so great will also be the cause of our destruction.

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I am a staunch trades unionist, HOWEVER - we have allowed Public Employees to form anti- citizen "unions".

The battle against the forces of socialism CANNOT be won unless and until we FIRST disassemble those 'unions' of Public Employees. By DEFINITION they exist for the single reason - TO PUT THEIR WILL AND AGENDA ABOVE THE WILL AND WELFARE OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.

Public Employees now control the ENTIRE union movement, Our Children's "teachers" have become their SOCIALIST INDOCTRINATORS!

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Im honestly not sure yet, but i have an idea. the age limit isnt part of it..

 

Ive been thinking aobout this very heavily with you guys opions in mind.

 

i opened the discussion first... check

 

the kids over here are afrain to touch my guns at the house.....

 

this needs to be solved by US NOW.

 

what did we skip?

 

BTW dont touch my guns

as some have previously stated REMOVE YOUR CHILDREN FROM THE GOVT INDOCTRINATION SYSTEM (public schooling)

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As a union stagehand, I agree with GOB on public sector unions.  However, there are some times where the public sector needs trade unions involved.  One of those is where I'm involved.  I work for a school system in their theatre, and union stage crews are needed there to help operate the fly systems, audio, and lighting systems.  Do you really want to trust a high school kid to rig 1000 lbs over the heads of other kids, or do you want it done professionally?  Most of our work is babysitting so they don't destroy everything, but for the fly system we run it due to OSHA and child labor laws.

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I was a union member. I got tired of carrying those who seemed to be in a competition to see who could do the least work. I got tired of playing exactly by the rules when it came to the work of other trades and then seeing entire crews from other trades doing our work while we had people who would actually work that had no job to go to. Leaving that was the best thing I ever did with myself. I like the competition of non-union work. Before I became self employed, I was making right at 50% more than anyone else who did what I did in my region. It was unheard of to make that much for that job position without working insane amounts of overtime. I came in as a working superintendent. There was no seniority. If you were better at what you did, you went straight to the top. If people at that company did not perform adequately enough to generate a profit on their work, I fired them without reservation. People who did not grow and excel never got a raise, which is appropriate. I could have never done that through the union. There was an unspoken 'no dead weight' policy.

 

The main advantage I see for unions is that many have an apprenticeship program that will breed a reasonably level of competency. However, our union started giving away journeyman certs for any warm body that had proof of experience. These were people that a decent 3 year apprentice would blow out of the water when it came to craftsmanship, but the apprentice made less money until they booked out. I think the unions are killing themselves to some degree by straying from the standards that made them competitive, at least in construction trades.

 

The teacher's union needs to be crushed, IMO. There are teachers who are really trying their best and their willing students are excelling, but have little or no hope of ever truly being compensated for their efforts while there are others who make the same money for far less effort and should be fired but won't be fired due to union protection. Some do not go above and beyond because they realize it won't matter financially anyway, so why would they bother? Teacher's unions have created a culture of stagnation when it comes to education and the policies that have been set in place, like no No Child Left Behind, have created the same culture with the students. One student works hard and another puts forth next to no effort, but both pass due to regulation. Equality? 

 

 

What do I like about self employment? I can fire those who suck or refuse the carry their weight.

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.Lock up the crazies, and have public hangings!

exactly.... and the stocks... now, we need to make sure that the .gov is doing right in its executing of justice, but thats just part of the problem now (public apathy).

 

as far as teachers unions, the whole system sucks.... they force you to get a degree (college typically = left leaning + easily impressioned young person = more liberals to tout the party line, to kids), then you get out only making $40k, you sign on the x initially for some reason, then 5 years later after having kids and buying too much crap you way in debt and PO'd.... once again, these were all personal decisions.  i dont feel sorry for folks who agree to something at one point then get ticked about it eventually....

 

i dont understand the (macro?)economics of the teacher pay scale, but i know it doesnt take a bachelor degree to teach anything, it takes love and firmness and patience and all the crap they dont teach you in college. 

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