Waiting for the Caravan

[sjgusmc21 844]

I am somewhat comforted hearing Gen Mathis 's words of wisdom.  More Military, Hell Yes!  Time will tell how nasty this becomes.  It certainly is opening many eyes there were completely closed or just looked the other way.  Stay safe DLT. 

Yes, it can be and often is a very ugly world. 

[evlblkwpnz 3,393]

One of my customers is very connected in regards to the defense of this nation and the intel surrounding that. He stated once that he always thought that any significant threat would come from outside of the US, but that thought had evolved to the threat being from the left. It is quite ironic that it looks like it may be a combination of the two.

I feel for anyone that is in the potential path of this. I wouldn't run from it unless I was very low on preparations or was going to be the lone able-bodied defender. I wouldn't want to have to kill to protect myself and family, but certainly would to preserve our lives. I hope the nastiness of this doesn't reach its full potential.

On a lighter note, I can't help but wonder if there has been a significant rise in gun and ammo sales along the border.

[Capt Nemo 868]

On ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 10:46 AM, DLT said:

Three to four waves formed now.  But not armed.  Still dangerous.  They rioted at the Mexican border yesterday when the Mexicans closed the gates.  They got violent and started throwing rocks at the federales.  They returned the gesture with tear gas. It's strange to see the Mexicans actually doing their job on their southern border.  You won't find any footage of that incident in our news though.  

I doubt that any press would report on it.

[evlblkwpnz 3,393]

Local stations might report on it by the time it is a full blown crisis with raping and pillaging. I am looking forward to a resurgence of journalism...

[Bvamp 595]

when is their ETA by you?

[DLT 1,644]

ETA is hard to tell.  It's a 12 hr drive to Mexico City from here.  But the group is struggling to find transportation because the MX gov is running major interference.  In theory, if they were to allow them vehicle transportation they could be here tomorrow, but not all of them.  If they keep walking, my guess is 10 to 20 miles max per day.  Maybe first week of December? 

[patriot 7,137]

With the kids there, 10 miles is a pretty good hike for a day. 

 

Remember the rules of engagement:

 

Treat rocks as rifles

 

Either one can kill you. So can an angry mob, even if unarmed.

 

Stay safe.

Edited November 3, 2018 by patriot

[sjgusmc21 844]

Me and my daughter went to the grocery store last night and we witnessed a pretty long military convoy heading south.  I will make a guess that it was part of the build up for the border.  My daughter asked why, and I explained to her it was President Trumps order to reinforce the border to keep illegal people from coming into the United States (talked about the 'caravan/invasion force coming).  All she said was 'You go President Trump!'  She is 10 and understands what is going on.  Very proud of her.

[libertarian 108]

The left media is crowing that deploying US military forces to the border is "political stunt". It isn't.

Make no mistake, hostile incursions by foreign nationals are an act of war. These aren't "caravans", they are will financed, organized columns of foreign nationals hostile to our rule of law, and to our very sovereignty,, seeking to undermine the very foundations of our system, and ultimately to overthrow our duly elected government. 

Along with our troops, I fully expect  to see armed predator drones, Blackhawks, and Apache attack helicopters at the ready to deal with  invaders, criminal cartels, criminal aliens, and drug traffickers.

This is the 'wall' we really need. One of true resolve, and one which the above mentioned invaders, criminals, and subversives dare not attempt to overrun.

 

 

 

[HackNtheBox 66]

check out this tune and especially the lyrics.....its like it was written for this up coming event...and its kick ass music too.

 

The band is     :

Oh The Larceny

song title: About to get crazy

 

I think that I should warn you
There's something bout to change
We're standing at the border
Where history is made

We're cranking up the lights now
So everyone can see
It's all happening right now
We're gonna make you believe

It's about to get crazy
It's about to go down
It's about to get crazy
It's gonna be loud

This is our house
We do what we wanna
We'll blow the roof up
Everybody's comin'
It's about to get crazy
It's about to go down


Let's make the whole world hear us
Throw your hands up high
We're bout to show you why they fear us
Here comes the battle cry

Edited November 4, 2018 by HackNtheBox

[sjgusmc21 844]

And so it begins....OOO_RAH!!!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-troops-seen-setting-up-barbed-wire-near-mexico-border

 

[patriot 7,137]

That's razor wire. Nasty, nasty stuff. Stitches kind of nasty. It's even hard to work on without slicing yourself up. 

[Ronin38 2,114]

They say that the military is only allowed to provide support for the Border Patrol. (Supplies, equipment... non-combat roles.)

If this is true, what happens when the Border Patrol starts getting overrun and/or a shooting war breaks out? I would NOT want to be the first Patrol Officer who has to decide between getting overrun, or shooting the unarmed women and children being pushed to the front. 

[libertarian 108]

"I would NOT want to be the first Patrol Officer who has to decide between getting overrun, or shooting the unarmed women and children being pushed to the front."

 

This is what the left is counting on to break the back of our immigration system, and national sovereignty. The communist organizers are using women and children as human shields, just as ISIS does. If a firefight breaks out and it well may, the loss of civilian lives will be on the communists

Looks like the Cartels have taken notice of the "caravan" as well and are using it a resource to scoop up women and children for sex trafficking (just like ISIS).

This isn't being widely reported in the US media, but it should be :  https://nypost.com/2018/11/06/drug-cartel-likely-behind-100-kidnappings-from-migrant-caravan/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/06/100-people-kidnapped-migrant-caravan-drug-cartels-mexico/

[Capt Nemo 868]

Hmmm....

USC Article I section 9 "The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or Duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Maybe we need to sic the IRS on them.  Tax is due!

[Ronin38 2,114]

1888 is long past, so we should be okay prohibiting these people.

[Capt Nemo 868]

It's more to do with slavery, but with California bringing in as many as they can, big time tax should be due from the state and late fines for not collecting the tax due.  Might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.  Plus, we might be able to get names and addresses for making ICE's job easier.

[DLT 1,644]

Well this is pretty dramatic.  Seems the caravan really wants to avoid south Texas and North East Mexico because they haved pissed off the cartels.  The cartels are mad that due to them, now border enforcement on the areas they control has been stepped up.  They are threatening the caravan.  Wow...can't make this shit up.

[patriot 7,137]

Who'd have thought we'd EVER see the day the cartels would do a good deed, even if it's for the wrong reason? Hopefully they'll "take care" of the problem for us.

[evlblkwpnz 3,393]

2 hours ago, patriot said:

Who'd have thought we'd EVER see the day the cartels would do a good deed, even if it's for the wrong reason? Hopefully they'll "take care" of the problem for us.

The left will find a way to blame whatever happens on Trump. I have been talking with some democrats and it has become clear to me that they are not interested in truth. Emotional issues mean more to them than their freedom and finances. I will never understand. They will take whatever the media lays out... hook, line, and sinker.

[libertarian 108]

"I have been talking with some democrats and it has become clear to me that they are not interested in truth. Emotional issues mean more to them than their freedom and finances. I will never understand. They will take whatever the media lays out... hook, line, and sinker."

This is because for them,  the socialist party dogma is their absolute faith. It is in fact their religion, and the sooner one understands that, the sooner one begins to see why logic, and common sense, and even the human instinct fo self preservation completely fails with these people.

They may walk and talk and seem more or less normal in every other way, but when it comes to their 'faith', they are mindless drones who act upon, and parrot whatever their leaders and the mainstream propagandists  have laid out for them. 

[DLT 1,644]

I'm definitely not an expert on the subject, but just from watching them I'm convinced that many on the left suffer from some sort of mental illness.  I go back to nature when observing them and I'm convinced that if left alone to fend for themeselves in a wild world  pre 1800's situation they would die.  They lack zero self dependance.  And their ideas and ideals only exist in the insect world.  But you cant apply those rules to humans because they don't work.  

[sjgusmc21 844]

DLT, how ya'll doing down there?  Its kind of been somewhat quiet, with all of the election bullshit taking over the waves. I hope all is well, or as well as it can be.  I hate the cartels, but maybe it will take them to clean this shit up. 

Be safe.

[DLT 1,644]

Everything is calm.  Like I said, the cartels apparently sent word down to the caravans that they are not welcomed in this area.  I have noticed a lot less air patrol.  I dont know what to make of that.  Perhaps they are flying drones at higher altitudes.  They are very hard to make out, but we have seen them in the past.  There is also some kind of observation post that's been set up on federal property about 400 yards east of my house, but I've never seen anyone in it.  Perhaps at night?

[evlblkwpnz 3,393]

They are there, just wearing that Harry Potter cloak...

@ 1:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqi3jpBSyCc

[Capt Nemo 868]

Just found out from a missionary that just returned, that things are much worse than we know.  He and his family had to bug out as things are getting stupid dangerous.  What we know is about 1/8th of how bad things really are.

[Ronin38 2,114]

Where were they located that they had to leave? 

[Capt Nemo 868]

Southern Mexican border area.

[DLT 1,644]

Quick update.  Nothing new here.  Cold nasty rainy weather has arrived here over the last week or so.  The only thing I've noticed is a blackhawk that buzzes over about twice a day.  I've continued to hear that the cartels scared the hell out of the caravan and now with this weather it's commiefornia or bust for them.  Of course we still have our local dopers pushing their wacky weed across, but that's typical here.  

[sjgusmc21 844]

Well, that is good news...sort of.  Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and a easy rest of the week.  Take care.