FRGSY4 2 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Hi, I am from from Germany and since 1 year owner or a Saiga 12 Police shotgun. From the beginning there are problems with ejecting the shells. I tried some methods to solve the problems (other recoilsprings, polishing bolt, other ammunition .......) problems remained. Now I measured the gas puck and the boring on my Saiga. There was a clearance of 0,23 mm. Another Saiga Police which i compared had only a clearance of 0,05 mm. Could this large clearance be a reason for the ejecting problems ? From which material is the origianal puck ? It is magnetic. Does it make sens to manufakture a puck from Titan oder stainless-steel ? Best regards for your help Reinhold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 You could make one out of whatever you wanted, but you are probably going to need to keep the weight and dimensions of the puck very close to the weight of the original piece. I would make it the same weight and diameter as your friends gas puck. You would think over time, if the gas puck diameter was the issue, that when the gas block got really dirty, that your S12 would begin to cycle better as the carbon build up filled in the gaps. Have you checked your gas ports? Have you checked to see if your gas ports are obstructed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FRGSY4 2 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Thanks for you answer. There are 5 gas ports and they are continous. There was no improvement when I shot for a longer time. Compared to the other Saiga 12 police i discovered that at my Saiga much more gas/dirt went past the piston. At first I will manufacture a puck from mild steel. I seems the origninal Saiga-puck is also from similar material. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sure2survive 2 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 doesn't sound like a puck issue sound more like bolt or mag issue or gas plug but not the puck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Also, there are several other after-market pucks available, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Does your shotgun have the adjustable gas plug in front or the fixed gas block with the integral front sight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FRGSY4 2 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) It is a fixed gasblock, no adjustment possible. I will try to get a matching aftermarket puck in Germany .....but this could be a problem I will also look to the mag ... Thanks Edited February 18, 2019 by FRGSY4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 If your friend's puck is the same design, try it in your weapon before you make another one. If it makes a positive difference, make one like it. Aftermarket pucks here in the US are usually made from stainless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FRGSY4 2 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Yes, the larger puck is already installed in my Saiga ...... I will test it on next wednesday ...hope it will function well . Material Nr. from the aftermarket puck e.g. from CSS seems to be Nr. 1.4542 .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 ports is good, but diameter could be an issue. Does the version you have come with the feature that disables the gun if the stock is folded? I am wondering if that could be introducing friction to the system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FRGSY4 2 Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 No, it also functions when stock is folded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FRGSY4 2 Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Problem soveld 😁 it was the too small puck. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Very good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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