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Well, the thing is, that these are AK or RPK based respectively. There aren't lowers as such. There are receiver flats. However, in the case of the saiga and probably the vepr, the front trunion is marked as the receiver, so it isn't a new flat you need, so much as a virgin front trunion.

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If you trying to go non-nfa route, looks like kalashnikov USA releasing one in a month.

 

If you bought a parts kit off gunchoker, you’d be better off to just sell parts and get whole gun

 

if you trying to keep big bro from knowing you have that specific “serial number”, make an ar and get a 410 upper from century Arms

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