Vepr .308 vs. Saiga .308, which is more accurate?
Posted 19 May 2004 - 12:53 PM
Saiga .308 converted
Posted 19 May 2004 - 02:13 PM
www.robarm.com has some info on vepr they import parts and make US parts add them for 922® compliance.
krebs custom I believe did hicap conversions for saiga 308 but heard its no longer done.
have heard of nice groupings from both.
Posted 19 May 2004 - 03:03 PM
If you want to know a secret; I am in need of some major cash for a very special project and will be willing to let go the newer of the two Vepr's. This Vepr ONLY has two boxes through it!!!!!
It is set up as follows:
-24" barrel Vepr .308(NATO)7.62x51mm with adjustable trigger and iron sights($650)
-8X42 PSOP Scope w/ IR detector, scope caps/ eye-shield and carrying case ($159)
- Original Box W/ all the extras=Manual, cleaning kit, sling, cleanin rod, & oil bottle
-Tiger-wood thumb-hole stock with hardware just like the SVD Tigers
-Black tactical stock with pistol grip that looks so much like the H&K PSG1
-(4) ten round mags($169)
-(1) five round mag
-Harris LS-A1 bi-pod ($79)
-Camoflage Soft Assault case ($49)
-Hard Shell travel case (Airliner) ($99)
-Check-rest (black polymer) ($25)
Total: $1,000 (USD) plus shipping!
You save: $350 buying this set up.
P.S. The stupid scope mount they give you when you buy these VEPR's and Saiga's is realy horrible and won't hold zero PLUS if you use coventional scopes there is not enough adjustment to zero and the scope sits to high and to the right is why, always use the Russian side-rail optics that are designed for these rifles!!!!
If you do go for this deal I will offer you only once and for only this one purchase a 1st Gen. Russian 4X Night Vision scope with weaver mount for only $425 in excellent condition with amazing clarity. It also comes with a Russian side-rail mount too! Normal cost of scope is $600 range. Side-rail mount is $110 fully adjustable. Not cheap $40 model, This is a Good Russian Mount with weaver/picatinney rail centerd over reciever.
If you don't want the mount, but just the scope I'll knock off $99! With this lil' set-up though you can do just about any thing: mount the scope to your AR-15 or FAL even a deer rifle. You can use the side-rail weaver mount to attach reflex sights or conventional optics like a MK4 Leupold scope or the likes!
Let me know what you think okay?
Edited by rock47, 27 May 2004 - 01:01 AM.
Posted 19 May 2004 - 04:04 PM
I appreciate the offer, but no thanks. I would need to sell my G3 for now ($700) and then I would rather buy just a basic Vepr II .308 ($529) or a Saiga .308 ($249). I don't need all the stuff you are offering. BTW, you never did get back to me about the USAS 12 mags. You were going to email me some pics of them converted. Thanks.
Posted 20 May 2004 - 12:11 PM
I was always under the impression that the HKG3 was an accurate gun. Never shot one though!
Posted 20 May 2004 - 01:54 PM
I have heard that the G3s are very accurate, but mine is not. It is a Hesse-built clone, so maybe that has something to do with it.
Posted 20 May 2004 - 01:55 PM
Once you drop your $529 plus tax and shipping and dealer fee's you'll be more in the $650 range.
Plus you'll want a couple extra mags @ 49.99 a mag plus shipping=$100.
A good bi-pod ($80) and you'll be so frustrated with the messed-up scope mount that you'll blow $160 plus bucks for a good eight power Russian scope.
All the time and money ordering this and that, that you wished you took this deal.
ABOUT the USAS-12 mag conversion. I got the info back from my buddy two weeks ago, I guess he had it burried for awile under ground (freaken wierdo) and he chikened out on doing it, because of some flak he heared about PRE-BAN hype by a neighbor .
I hate to do this to you, but I hope you understand. I am at the end of a MAJOR project with this bolt-hold-open device (AKA) the "AK SUPER CATCH" and I would rather wait untill this whole assault weapons ban fades away if you don't mind. I DO NOT NEED ANY accusations by some one ease drooping in on our conversations to mess-up my clean rep.
Edited by rock47, 27 May 2004 - 01:04 AM.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 12:58 PM
is this the same?
Posted 21 May 2004 - 03:17 PM
What they are talking about is making modifications to the gun, such that it will have a mechanical bolt hold open. These "kits" can go from simple to complex in a hurry. I have heard that some of the newwer models may come with a device already installed.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 03:48 PM
Posted 21 May 2004 - 11:20 PM
Posted 27 May 2004 - 01:05 AM
Edited by rock47, 27 May 2004 - 01:08 AM.
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