cletus 0 Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 The stock has 3 screwholes. !1 is under the rear spring mount. Most stamped reciever AK stocks fit. Ergo grips rule. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stokstad 4 Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes To use a drag type stock you will need to convert the gun back to its intended form. Meaning you will have to move the trigger group back to the original nonsporting location. There are many tutorials on this site. I recommend the Choate stock. It has the best quality and looks the best as far as im concerned. Here is my 7.62x39 with the Choate: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=6177&hl= Edited May 13, 2006 by stokstad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PvtPyle 0 Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes To use a drag type stock you will need to convert the gun back to its intended form. Meaning you will have to move the trigger group back to the original nonsporting location. There are many tutorials on this site. I recommend the Choate stock. It has the best quality and looks the best as far as im concerned. Here is my 7.62x39 with the Choate: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=6177&hl= Not entirely true. THe Russians have made us a SVD tyled stock that does not require any modifications to the weapon at all. We are hoping to have them here in June. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 You could go with a used stock from a ban style SAR - they are for sale on different boards and probably gunbroker - this is the laminated wood thumbhole type stock with molded cheek rest. Would compliment a wood forend nicely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stokstad 4 Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes To use a drag type stock you will need to convert the gun back to its intended form. Meaning you will have to move the trigger group back to the original nonsporting location. There are many tutorials on this site. I recommend the Choate stock. It has the best quality and looks the best as far as im concerned. Here is my 7.62x39 with the Choate: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=6177&hl= Not entirely true. THe Russians have made us a SVD tyled stock that does not require any modifications to the weapon at all. We are hoping to have them here in June. ok at this time there are none and with a russian stock it makes it more difficult to meet 922r. Besides that they dont look very good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Centerfire systems has the romy style drag stocks either alone or with a nice accesory package"a" with magazines, or just accesories, all are good deals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asinner1979 0 Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could go with a used stock from a ban style SAR - they are for sale on different boards and probably gunbroker - this is the laminated wood thumbhole type stock with molded cheek rest. Would compliment a wood forend nicely. Will these stocks fit without moving the trigger group? And should they fit the 410s?, Cheaperthandirt has these extremely cheap right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could go with a used stock from a ban style SAR - they are for sale on different boards and probably gunbroker - this is the laminated wood thumbhole type stock with molded cheek rest. Would compliment a wood forend nicely. Will these stocks fit without moving the trigger group? And should they fit the 410s?, Cheaperthandirt has these extremely cheap right now. The trigger would have to be moved, they fit a standard ak rifle, not a saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes so the guys at Fbmg will have a stock in june and since I'm in utah I can go get one my question now is is there anyone that offers a stock like that know without having to relocate the trigger foward other than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 922r You must have 10 or fewer parts to use a pistol grip stock. The USA conversion trigger group is 3 parts, add a USA piston and a USA butstock (part of the Drag ) and then you will be legal. NOONE on this board will answer a question on how to build an illegal weapon. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrinn 0 Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 --> QUOTE(G O B @ May 19 2006, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 922r You must have 10 or fewer parts to use a pistol grip stock. The USA conversion trigger group is 3 parts, add a USA piston and a USA butstock (part of the Drag ) and then you will be legal. NOONE on this board will answer a question on how to build an illegal weapon. G O B Please, where does one find a US .308 Piston, or will a standard AK 47 Piston do? Also, I forgot who has the US .308 foreguards. Is it TAPCO? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
texlurch 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) Please, where does one find a US .308 Piston, or will a standard AK 47 Piston do?Also, I forgot who has the US .308 foreguards. Is it TAPCO? Standard AK fits fine. Edited May 24, 2006 by texlurch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) --><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(G O B @ May 19 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> 922r You must have 10 or fewer parts to use a pistol grip stock. The USA conversion trigger group is 3 parts, add a USA piston and a USA butstock (part of the Drag ) and then you will be legal. NOONE on this board will answer a question on how to build an illegal weapon. G O B If you use a US-made thumbhole stock (with trigger forward conversion) or a us-made buttstock and pistol grip, and a G-2 or RSA fire control group then the imported parts count would be: barrel handguard trunions receiver bolt carrier bolt gas piston mag body mag floorplate mag follower That's 10 parts and 922r legal ... If you want to use the $10 laminate romanian "drag" stocks, then that would count as one or two imported parts (buttstock [and] pistol grip). But doesn't the use of the thumbhole stock preclude 922r? The current crop of thumbhole, low cap WASR's are excluded as sporting arms aren't they? I trying to find a draganov style skeleton stock with cheek rest and a pistol grip who offers these that fit the saiga and what do the cost mine has the standard stock with just two screw holes so the guys at Fbmg will have a stock in june and since I'm in utah I can go get one my question now is is there anyone that offers a stock like that know without having to relocate the trigger foward other than that. Given that owning the rifle is legal in your area, the trigger forward conversion is a simple procedure and requires only a hand drill and dremel with attachments. So, if you are at all handy, don't let that stand in your way! Here is a pic of my conversion - took under an hour: Look around in this forum and you will find many cool (and legal) conversions using all kinds of furniture options. Edited May 22, 2006 by O.S.O.K. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrinn 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Standard AK fits fine. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZYA_LTR 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 OSOK, i have a question, i looked at the conversion that someone posted on some website, but noticed that my Saiga, just like yours i believe, doesn't have the rear 2 rivets in the receiver like the one on his site does, how did you get your trigger assy. out? I wanna make sure about this before i buy the parts for my conversion, i picked up my saiga today, and can't wanit to convert it, but want to be totally ready, and it can obviously be done, because you did yours, and i don't see the 2 rear most holes in the receiver. Thanks ahead of time for the help. Jason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 OSOK, i have a question, i looked at the conversion that someone posted on some website, but noticed that my Saiga, just like yours i believe, doesn't have the rear 2 rivets in the receiver like the one on his site does, how did you get your trigger assy. out? I wanna make sure about this before i buy the parts for my conversion, i picked up my saiga today, and can't wanit to convert it, but want to be totally ready, and it can obviously be done, because you did yours, and i don't see the 2 rear most holes in the receiver. Thanks ahead of time for the help. Jason The .308 Saiga just uses a long trigger extension rather than the cross-pins used in the 7.62x39 rifles - the .308 is simple as pie to convert. Check this - just disregard the part about drilling those pins out - the rest is relevant: http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/index.htm Also, disregard the mag conversion info of course... Basically, you field strip the rifle, remove the buttstock screws and the buttstock. Then you disasemble the fire control group and remove. Grind the rivets holding the trigger guard and remove that. Next, you drill or grind the rivets and spot welds holding the conversion plate on and then remove the conversion plate. Finally, drill the holes to remount the trigger guard forward and then use some nuts and bolts to secure it - after cutting the back piece off (too long for pistol grip). Then install the new us-made fire control group and us made buttstock and pistol grip - you'll need to get a mounting block and screw for the pistol grip. Or, if you're wanting the drag type stock - install that. That's it. Harder to describe than to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZYA_LTR 0 Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Did you have to cut any of the holes for the pistol grip, or the relocated trigger? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Did you have to cut any of the holes for the pistol grip, or the relocated trigger? No - the only holes needed were for the trigger guard - simple, little round holes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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