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This could be another good candidate for the tech section.

If any of you have the time and a tape measure could you please check the LOP on your converted Saigas so we can have something to compare different stocks and how they fit on conversions?

In particular I'm interested in what the LOP ends up with the three different available ACE folder setups and how they compare with the internal vs. the external adapter blocks.

Also it would be good to know what it is with the Nato length vs. Warsaw Pact AK stocks.

 

Here is what I have: (measured from center of butt to center of trigger face)

 

Camo S-12 -w- factory stock...13 1/2" (roughly the same on 3 other factory ones)

Tactical S-12 -w- ACE folder ("super short" stock), external block, and 1" recoil pad...14 7/16"

AKS-12 -w- Blonde Bulgarian wood stock...12 7/8"

AKS-20 -w- Russian Laminate...12 5/8"

S-410 -w- Tapco Folder...14 1/4"

AKS-7.62x39 Russian Laminate...12 3/4"

AKS-.223 Bulgarian poly...12 3/4"

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Measured same reference points:

 

S-12 (Tromix) w/ ext. block ACE (8" upper bar) folder & 1" recoil pad-- 13 5/8"

S-12 (Tromix) w/ ext. block Lage & no pad-- 13 1/8"

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Thanks Doc,

"w/ ext. block ACE (8" upper bar) folder & 1" recoil pad-- 13 5/8"

I assume that is the one they refer to as their "standard" or medium length?

 

Keep em comin guys...

Yeah, it's whatever the one Tony usually uses with his conversions, which I assume would be the standard one.

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These are the lengths of the 3 Ace stocks listed on Blackjacks website.

 

"super short"...7.6"

"standard".......8.5"

"long".............9.5"

 

The external block adds 1.5" and the recoil pads come in 1/2" and 1" thicknesses.

The hinge adds about 3/4"

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These are the lengths of the 3 Ace stocks listed on Blackjacks website.

 

"super short"...7.6"

"standard".......8.5"

"long".............9.5"

 

The external block adds 1.5" and the recoil pads come in 1/2" and 1" thicknesses.

The hinge adds about 3/4"

With the 8" bar and the 1/2" pad guess that's where "standard" shows as 8 1/2".

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  • 8 months later...
And what did we learn here today?.......Russians have short arms.

 

Nope. M.T.Kalashnikov himself is quite a short person and has short arms; he just built AK with his body metrics. All others have nothing to do but get used to it. In spite of this fact shorter stock is quite comfortable with heavy cold weather cloths and/or body armor.

 

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