PvtPyle 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Thanks for the update! I don't mind the wait. If it weren't for you guys there would be nothing to wait for. I restate my offer to buy anyone elses' pre-orders if they don't want to wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macbeau 902 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I am still in, but this has been a lot like watching Christmas come and go with no presents and having it defered to sometime in January - maybe February... (*sigh*) PvtPyle - I am assuming that the incentive for the pre-order total of 1500 mags to get a free mag body for every $100 in the group buy / pre-oders was not met and that there will be no extra mag bodies going out? I never did see the final numbers posted after 14 July - when ya'll had 833 mags ordered. I would have figured that if that goal had been met, ya'll would have put it out to the masses. Just curious... Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoAim 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I am still in, but this has been a lot like watching Christmas come and go with no presents and having it defered to sometime in January - maybe February... (*sigh*) PvtPyle - I am assuming that the incentive for the pre-order total of 1500 mags to get a free mag body for every $100 in the group buy / pre-oders was not met and that there will be no extra mag bodies going out? I never did see the final numbers posted after 14 July - when ya'll had 833 mags ordered. I would have figured that if that goal had been met, ya'll would have put it out to the masses. Just curious... Thanks. I believe I was in for the unassembled mags. Honestly, I'd love to get my hands on a regular Saiga-308 mag to see if these puppies will fit in my Yugo .308 (which needs customized/converted mags anymore). Delays are understandable. Thanks for the update. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birrdog 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I am still in, but this has been a lot like watching Christmas come and go with no presents and having it defered to sometime in January - maybe February... (*sigh*) PvtPyle - I am assuming that the incentive for the pre-order total of 1500 mags to get a free mag body for every $100 in the group buy / pre-oders was not met and that there will be no extra mag bodies going out? I never did see the final numbers posted after 14 July - when ya'll had 833 mags ordered. I would have figured that if that goal had been met, ya'll would have put it out to the masses. Just curious... Thanks. I to feel the same PvtPyle, I am going to wait. Just want to know if we will still get the mag. bodys or is that a no-go? I have done only one trasaction with you but was very pleased so that is why I took this buy in faith that you would deliver. Keep up the good work and keep use infomed on the 20 rds. Thank you Birrdog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monomonk 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I thought that there would be problems and delays. Doing something the first time is usually difficult. But I trust that this project will go forward to success. Monomonk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Well for cryin out loud - cancel my order! Not! Just kidding Thanks for the update! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaGroaner 2 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I am HAPPY to wait for my mags but I'm wondering what kind of deal I can get on an extra mag body now. I was hoping the incentive would happen and I didn't preorder the bodies I was hoping to get free with my six mags. I only want to buy one body but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay more for a body than I did for complete mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KTR03 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I too am willing to wait, but I'll be very suprised if the russians come through quickly. It has been my experience that they are unreliable at best. Sorry if that hurts anyones feelings. D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 So we are getting factory followers. I will be looking for another USA part. No biggie. We (my bubby that is sharing an order ) would rather have the GOOD stuff. A week or 2 here or there is to be expected with a new product. The Edsel would have been a great car if they had gotten the bugs out before giving hundreds of them to car writers to drive home! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaGroaner 2 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I too am willing to wait, but I'll be very suprised if the russians come through quickly. It has been my experience that they are unreliable at best. Sorry if that hurts anyones feelings. D Hopefully the Russian's name isn't Andrei. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwsackett 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I'm just happy to get news of any kind! A delay is no prob. it's just nice to get updates. I am sooo looking forward to the day they are ready...even if late! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snake54 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Thanks for the update. I can wait until they are ready. Have several 8 round mags, so no rush. Send them when they are right. Edited September 9, 2006 by snake54 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crosshair 1 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thanks for the update. Will the fact that one part is not US made affect legality if the gun is converted/unconverted? /Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PanchoVilla 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) I would like one of the full magazines I ordered to be changed to just a body order. Thank you. Edited September 9, 2006 by PanchoVilla Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 PvtPile forgot to mention, the springs are finished and in hand. I shipped them to FBMG awhile back. Also, if the parts count is an issue for anyone, I have a few U.S. made magazine followers on-hand and can have more made if need be. Unfortunately, they they will run $20 each. That is why it is not economically feasible for FBMG to use them in production magazines. FBMG puts their money where their mouth is. They prepaid in full for all the parts Tromix is supplying for the project. I really hope no one backs out on this deal. FBMG does not deserve that. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 PvtPile forgot to mention, the springs are finished and in hand. I shipped them to FBMG awhile back. Also, if the parts count is an issue for anyone, I have a few U.S. made magazine followers on-hand and can have more made if need be. Unfortunately, they they will run $20 each. That is why it is not economically feasible for FBMG to use them in production magazines. FBMG puts their money where their mouth is. They prepaid in full for all the parts Tromix is supplying for the project. I really hope no one backs out on this deal. FBMG does not deserve that. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp I had an experience with FBMG at a time when the first new Saiga12 were coming in. I had a pain in the ass finding an FFL who would transfer. It took about 2 weeks for me to line someone up. I live in liberal haven Silver Spring, MD, Montgomery County. They gave me no shit about the delay when they could have easily found a new buyer. They did not charge me until I found an FFL to transfer. Most MoCo gun shops won't transfer if they will be able to order the item themselves, and at that time they were quoting 600 for a Saiga12. I bought the pre-order deal without hesitation, and I have no doubt that FBMG will deliver. If anyone has doubt, PM me so I can buy out your pre-order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwsackett 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hey headshot, I "escaped" White Oak Silver Spring just a few years ago. Now I'm in Germantown MoCo. I got my S-308 transfered from Georgia to Potomac Trading Post on University Blvd. in Kensington. Worked out well. I also purchased several 8 rd. mags from FBMG with no problems. They're good folks as you know. Sorry, I'm keeping my pre-order! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hey headshot, I "escaped" White Oak Silver Spring just a few years ago. Now I'm in Germantown MoCo. I got my S-308 transfered from Georgia to Potomac Trading Post on University Blvd. in Kensington. Worked out well. I also purchased several 8 rd. mags from FBMG with no problems. They're good folks as you know. Sorry, I'm keeping my pre-order! Really? I live a mile from the intersection of New Hamshire and Randolph. If you went to high School at Springbrook between 90-94, I probably know you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Thanks for the update. Will the fact that one part is not US made affect legality if the gun is converted/unconverted? /Thanks Short answer - yes, it could depending on your rifle's parts count. Long answer: To use the high-capacity mags, you must adhere to the 922r ruling which states basically that you can't have any more than 10 countable imported parts on a rifle that meets certain qualifications, which the saiga 308 with a high cap mag does. I could list out all of the parts and such, but this has been done many times alread in this forum - just do a search and you should get the specifics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
24kshooter 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Waiting is just part of the deal - hopefully the parts will all work reliably when used together over time. Magazines are tricky and I am glad they are preworking out the bugs so we are not the beta testers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pointer 21 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) Did anyone actualy find out if the 8rd mags spring and folower will work in the 20rd mag bodys? Sorry if the answers posted somewhere but i cant locate it. Edited September 11, 2006 by Pointer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Did anyone actualy find out if the 5rd mags spring and folower will work in the 20rd mag bodys? Sorry if the answers posted somewhere but i cant locate it. Don't you mean the 8 round mags? There is a post above that Tony supplied FBMG with the springs, so maybe you could ask him or FBMG if the springs are the same or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pointer 21 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Oops.just came back to edit that but you beat me to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 FBMG tested the prototype 20rd mags with the springs from the 8rd mags and they worked perfectly. So, yes, they are the same. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckandaquarterquarterstaff 5 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Seems they've done a good job giving us the info as it comes out. Really do appreaciate the fact that they do not reply without any no new info. Those of you who ordered mag bodies, please give function reports and opinions regarding their potential longevity as soon as you get a few hundered rounds through them on your S308's... THANKS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tokageko 8 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Even though I haven't yet ordered any magazines, I would like to state my appreciation for this, and other, honest updates. My confidence with this grows by the day. I'll be working on getting my 308 compliant before purchasing any high capacity magazines. I'm certain that all of the folks at FBMG will understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craig45 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 good deal. i can wait because i have to change some parts on mine to make it compliant. just have to figure out which ones to keep it sporter. the gas piston for sure, maybe the furniture if i can find a semi pistolgrip one. uncle batfuck has got me really pissed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) I may have a USA follower, and I have found a USA mag that can easily be modded to fit the S-.308! The PRO-mag replacement mags for my Ishapore L2a1 will fit with only a front and rear sheetmetal tab spotwelded to the mag. The followers need to have the front 1/4" turned under and they will fit in the Saiga mag. Function is another question. These are 10 rd mags, and the spring is 1/3 the length of the 8rd Saiga spring. Maybe Saiga springs are really for 20 o 25rd'ers? I may sacrifice one of the PRO-mags next week for testing. If the follower works in the 8rd Saiga mag, then it will most likely work in the 20rd'ers. the only problem may be incompatibility of the flat steel follower with the plastic mag. Edited September 14, 2006 by G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blfuller 2 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 If the mag body pre orders are filled and the Russian followers have not yet arrived will the mag bodies be made available for sale to others that want them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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