hartzpad 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) I have a converted 19" threaded barrel Saiga 12 with 4 different muzzle attachements (full choke, modified choke, open choke and muzzle protector). Poly choke is a choke that you can open or close just by rotating it, is this correct? I am always changing my Saiga's chokes while out shooting to get the pattern I need at certain distances. Is the PolyChoke that much better where I can just reach down and screw it to tighten or loosen the choke pattern? Is there any way to use a flash surpressor with the polychoke? I would love to get one of the cool flash surpressors for my Saiga 12 but I would rarely be able to use it because I am always using my chokes while shooting. Anyone have any pics of the polychoke installed? I've seen 1 picture of it on Tromix's site. Also, who sells Flash Surpressors for the Saiga 12 to work with the factory threaded barrel? Edited September 21, 2006 by hartzpad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 There are a few pix on Polychoke's website: http://www.poly-choke.com/choke.htm. Tromix is the only source of OEM threaded muzzle devices for the S-12 I am aware of, but there may be others. I would guess you cannot use a flash suppressor and the Polychoke at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 There are a few pix on Polychoke's website: http://www.poly-choke.com/choke.htm. Tromix is the only source of OEM threaded muzzle devices for the S-12 I am aware of, but there may be others. I would guess you cannot use a flash suppressor and the Polychoke at the same time. I've just purchased one, but haven't been able to get my bbl threaded to accept it (it's a rem choke thread model). Don't any way to use this with a flash suppressor, but mine is ported, so there'd be a little flash suppression going on. I don't know if you are looking for flash suppression, or the look of the flash suppressor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I have a couple of them like the ones on polychokes site above, the "Deluxe" one with the gold writing and the one with the vert slots. I'm also trying to find some way to install them on one of my S-12s without having to ship the gun to poly. I've talke to them and they wil do it though. They have a jig that enables them to turn the barrel on a lathe without having to remove it from the trunnion. Let me know what you find out K. Tromix makes a very nice looking polychoke with FH style slots cut into it if that's what you are after. I think he can even thread it for your OEM threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Tromix makes a very nice looking polychoke with FH style slots cut into it if that's what you are after. I think he can even thread it for your OEM threads. Here it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 "Tromix makes a very nice looking polychoke with FH style slots cut into it if that's what you are after. I think he can even thread it for your OEM threads." Yes, that is correct. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Hmm, would having a Polychoke installed on your Saiga-12 be considered the same as having a flash suppressor on it in socialist states like NJ? I'm assuming it would still be okay (even with a pistol grip modification), but wouldn't want to run afoul of the law by accident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLOCKshooter 1 Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 "Tromix makes a very nice looking polychoke with FH style slots cut into it if that's what you are after. I think he can even thread it for your OEM threads." Yes, that is correct. Tony How much $ would one of those for the OEM threads with a black finish run? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hartzpad 0 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 "Tromix makes a very nice looking polychoke with FH style slots cut into it if that's what you are after. I think he can even thread it for your OEM threads." Yes, that is correct. Tony How much $ would one of those for the OEM threads with a black finish run? Yes, I would like to know as well. And is it possible to machine the sharp points in it to look like one of the infamous Tromix flash surpressors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glock_forty5 0 Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Tromix built my Saiga with the Polychoke and it is the heat. You can change the pattern to sit your load/reqs. I definatly recomend it. I also recomend Tromix, he is a craftsman and it is worth the hastle to send your gun to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLOCKshooter 1 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Tony's web site says "Poly Choke Installation $150" but the picture is of a different poly choke (vertical not horizontal slots) and I'm looking for a screw on, not an installation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hartzpad 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Ya, I would like to know if Tony sells the Polychokes already threaded for the stock Saiga barrel threads so I can "install" it myself. I would love to have one of his polychockes with the flash surpressor cuts in it along with the sharp points of other flash surpressors I have seen on Saiga 12's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 It would run $120, threaded M22x.75 with the flash hider slots in the front like pictured above. Refinished in black Norrell moly resin. I could add the points in the front for an additional $30, but then your flash hider slots would have to be very short. You would have to cut the barrel back about a 3/8" or the threads would be showing behind the choke. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K1196A 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 It would run $120, threaded M22x.75 with the flash hider slots in the front like pictured above. Refinished in black Norrell moly resin. I could add the points in the front for an additional $30, but then your flash hider slots would have to be very short. You would have to cut the barrel back about a 3/8" or the threads would be showing behind the choke. Tony that is some slick shit tony -- very tempting!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hartzpad 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 It would run $120, threaded M22x.75 with the flash hider slots in the front like pictured above. Refinished in black Norrell moly resin. I could add the points in the front for an additional $30, but then your flash hider slots would have to be very short. You would have to cut the barrel back about a 3/8" or the threads would be showing behind the choke. Tony Thanks Tony. I may end up ordering one from you in a few months with just the slots machined and with Black moly resin. I can handle trimming the barrel for appearance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLOCKshooter 1 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Ya, I would like to know if Tony sells the Polychokes already threaded for the stock Saiga barrel threads so I can "install" it myself. I would love to have one of his polychockes with the flash surpressor cuts in it along with the sharp points of other flash surpressors I have seen on Saiga 12's. No disrespect intended to you or Tony, but I don't get the points. looks like they would slash my leg open when transitioning to my pistol, slice open the front seat of my car, get caught in the pile carpet on the floor of my car, ... I guess that's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors. Now about the barrel shortening. How tough is that? Is it like hacksaw and dremmel easy? Wouldn't that mess up the threads? Edited September 24, 2006 by GLOCKshooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hartzpad 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Ya, I would like to know if Tony sells the Polychokes already threaded for the stock Saiga barrel threads so I can "install" it myself. I would love to have one of his polychockes with the flash surpressor cuts in it along with the sharp points of other flash surpressors I have seen on Saiga 12's. No disrespect intended to you or Tony, but I don't get the points. looks like they would slash my leg open when transitioning to my pistol, slice open the front seat of my car, get caught in the pile carpet on the floor of my car, ... I guess that's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors. Now about the barrel shortening. How tough is that? Is it like hacksaw and dremmel easy? Wouldn't that mess up the threads? The points would be purely for looks and since the choke is easily removable, no worries about "stabbing yourself in the leg", but it is a little cheesy. To cut the barrel, I would thread on a nut and cut the barrel with a table mounted chop saw with a metal cutting blade, then back the nut off and you will still have clean threads. Oldest method of thread repair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jor-el 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'd go for an OEM screw in rather than an installation, myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter78 1 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Anyone try one of these from tony yet. I was wondering if the barrel and the choke lined up correctly on the inside (no step) to catch the wad on. It looks like the ultimate muzzle device to me. Insted of cutting off threads, wouldn't adding a lock washer or narrow nut behind the poly choke be a better option? Then you could "lock it together with the poly choke or does the bottom turn to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Could anyone with a poly-choke on their Saiga-12 share their experiences with them, such as how it patterns in the different settings and what difference is made if any, say from a cut 18.5" barrel. I have a Deluxe Poly-choke top half, Poly-Choke said they would sell the part for the barrel for around $30, and Tony said he could thread that to the standard Saiga 12 threads, rather than the threads Poly-Choke put's on them because they are slightly different and once done the gun wouldn't accept other hiders well. Just debating on whether to go with it or just have a shark brake put on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 So Tony, Can you permanently attach a vented poly so that the total barrel+choke length is 18"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Guys, are all of you adding chokes to your S-12 for hunting, or playing with Birdshot, because, in my humble experience, if you are using them constricted with Buckshot, you are messing up. For me buckshot has always thrown the cleanest pattern, from a cylinder bore. Have you checked your pattern? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidsuffolk 96 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Mine came with a polychoke already fitted and it was the type that looked like the old Cutts compensator. It was the biggest, ugliest thing I'd ever seen on a gun! I gave it to Cobra whenI took it off so he may have a photo of it on another gun. I put a RUS military flash hider on instead. When I did, I found that whoever had fitted the polychoke had done so to a full choke barrel so not only was it ugly, it was useless as well! Personally for the sort of shooting I do I like the barrel as short as I can have (sadly only 24" here in the UK) and open cylinder, but I appreciate not everyone likes that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I can cut your barrel to 16.5" and permanently attach the Poly Choke. The new ones are more expensive now, but they already come threaded deep enough for the Saiga OEM threads. You still need to trim end of the barrel a hair to get them to line up at top dead center though. If the barrel is cut to 16.5", I open up the gas ports a bit to get them to cycle better. This will increase fouling of you gas piston, so you have to clean it more often. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I can cut your barrel to 16.5" and permanently attach the Poly Choke. The new ones are more expensive now, but they already come threaded deep enough for the Saiga OEM threads. You still need to trim end of the barrel a hair to get them to line up at top dead center though. If the barrel is cut to 16.5", I open up the gas ports a bit to get them to cycle better. This will increase fouling of you gas piston, so you have to clean it more often. Tony Great! Now I just need to get off the fence on going SBS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Ya, I would like to know if Tony sells the Polychokes already threaded for the stock Saiga barrel threads so I can "install" it myself. I would love to have one of his polychockes with the flash surpressor cuts in it along with the sharp points of other flash surpressors I have seen on Saiga 12's. No disrespect intended to you or Tony, but I don't get the points. looks like they would slash my leg open when transitioning to my pistol, slice open the front seat of my car, get caught in the pile carpet on the floor of my car, ... I guess that's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors. Now about the barrel shortening. How tough is that? Is it like hacksaw and dremmel easy? Wouldn't that mess up the threads? ya but don't it look bad-ass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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