Gummerfan 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Any more news yet? I'm still planning to "find/hide" the cash for one if it works. I've been looking at the other "big bore" alternatives (.50 Beowulf, .458 SOCOM, et al.) and the S-444 is looking better all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crosshair 1 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I've been looking at the other "big bore" alternatives (.50 Beowulf, .458 SOCOM, et al.) and the S-444 is looking better all the time. Yea, I was thinking "Why the 444?". Then I got to thinking. Factory ammo is readily available and it is a very versitile handloading round. Bullets and brass are cheap and plentifull. Now I am thinking that the 444 would be a nice round to have in a Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 All the parts are in stock to build the gun up. I just have so many orders backed up, it's going to be awhile before I can break free and put it together. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Any more news yet? I'm still planning to "find/hide" the cash for one if it works. I've been looking at the other "big bore" alternatives (.50 Beowulf, .458 SOCOM, et al.) and the S-444 is looking better all the time. I thought that too. $20 a box isn't great, but I do believe it's more powerful than 50 Beowulf and a heck of a lot cheaper than 458 SOCOM. Plus the specs of S-410 are much better suited than most of us would think, making it far more cost effective than what it would take to do an AK in those other rounds or at least the SOCOM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gummerfan 0 Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Hmmm...Smith Enterprises makes a Vortex flash hider that fits the .458 SOCOM. Anybody getting an idea??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crosshair 1 Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Hmmm...Smith Enterprises makes a Vortex flash hider that fits the .458 SOCOM.Anybody getting an idea??? Yea.....er, no......wait, yea.....no, hold on. Let me think........I've got it.....no........mabee......it's comming.......no. Crud, I don't have a clue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 A .455 Saiga NEEDS a Cutts comp from a Thompson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Am I the only fellow who would rather have recoil than the muzzle blast of a comp? If I were to get one, which I'm considering, I'd want either no muzzle attachment or one that doesn't redirect any muzzle blast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The whole idea is to get back on target quickly, verry quickly. A scout gun's scout gun. 10 round mags-Big lead on target now - followed by as many more as needed QUICKLY!. I like this for the back-up or for an "adventurin'"" gun. A flash hider could be substituded in states where they are allowed. The politicians in Annapolis are SCARED of EVIL flashhiders and won't allow them here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Just a quick question.... Could it not be done with the 454 casull or 45LC, seeing how theres pistols that shoot the 410 and 45LC, and 454 and 45LC. I'd like mine in 454, able to handle largest load available, but also available with BC/BS shoulder replacement insurance. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gummerfan 0 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Just a quick question.... Could it not be done with the 454 casull or 45LC, seeing how theres pistols that shoot the 410 and 45LC, and 454 and 45LC. I'd like mine in 454, able to handle largest load available, but also available with BC/BS shoulder replacement insurance. :) The .444 Marlin won't require any mods to the magazines or receiver. Trying to convert to the handgun rounds would necessitate a major overhaul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) 454 Casull has higher chamber pressures than the 444 Marlin. The chamber pressures of the 444 Marlin are just right for a rifle strong enough for 7.62x39mm, which the Saiga 410 is (it's stronger than it needs to be for the sake of using standard parts.) The 444 Marlin is just right for the Saiga-410. It seems Tony will be the first to make one, but others have had the same idea independently. Edited December 12, 2006 by BattleRifleG3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Progress is bring made...that is really more than I am authorized to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Thanks for the answers, so evidently it won't be a shoulder buster. My 454 is hard enough to hold onto, right now my main concern is not so much hitting the bulls eye, but stopping the hand breaker from coming loose. The grips are a little large and am looking for smaller ones that I can get a firm hold on. But if the convert works, put me down for one, I'll just buy another .410 for this one. PLEASE Santa bring me that Barrett 50, 10 round for Christmas. I've been some what good this year, yes sir, I have killed more cats than last year, BUT THEY WHERE ALL WILD. and with the 50, I can not only get the cat, but also 4-5 of the neighbors dogs, Yes Sir, they do live about 1/2 away. Oh NO SIR, that crazy crack head down there in the woods with the meth lab, I'd NEVER shoot his "kitchen". :):) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gummerfan 0 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Progress is bring made...that is really more than I am authorized to say. Sweeet! Now, I've been reading about this .375 Ruger....Doesn't Saiga make a .30-06??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Saiga does have a 30-06, but the 375 Ruger isn't a 375-06 - closer to a 375-7mm Rem Mag. I wouldn't assume automatically that the S-100 in 30-06 could be opened up to 375 safely. I've done the math of the 444 Marlin in Saiga 410 though I do believe it will work safely. I don't have a PE stamp to put on it, but short of that and peer review I'd say it's a safe enough bet to build, with the final verdict coming from real life testing in safe conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crosshair 1 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 As I said before, I sure hope you guys have a layaway plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 As I said before, I sure hope you guys have a layaway plan. more like directly deposit my paycheck and we can square up what I don't use later... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Havoc308 3 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) How about a Saiga 308 to 450 marlin. There is an outfit here in SC that is doing it with AR-10 rifles. 450 Marlin in AR-10 Mag AR-10 edited to correct my computer fu Edited December 25, 2006 by Havoc308 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
studmuff1228 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 How about a Saiga 308 to 450 marlin. There is an outfit here in SC that is doing it with AR-10 rifles. 450 marlin in AR 10 magazine AR-10 BOOM BOOM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 As I said before, I sure hope you guys have a layaway plan. How about laying away the money and having it ready to plunk down when the conversion is available? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casp 119 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 So, any news? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Havoc308 3 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Accuracy Systems doesn't work on AKs. Crap! No .450 Marlin conversion for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy_stikx 0 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Why not do it yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gummerfan 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Oh heck. As exciting as this project sounds, I decided that I really don't need another fiearm that uses expensive, hard-to-get mags. My S-308 and two S12s are bad enough. I still hope this is a success, but I just bought a Marlin 1895 .45-70 to take care of my big bore needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Unfortunately, demand for S-12 conversions is so high right now that development projects are on hold. We are going to do it, though...just trying to catch a breather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Unfortunately, demand for S-12 conversions is so high right now that development projects are on hold. We are going to do it, though...just trying to catch a breather. Jeez Bob! I already got my S-12 back, so tell everybody else to get f---ed,and start working on the next gun I want! Well....finish Jeauxs, it would be a shame to lose all that free advertising. :lol: just kidding I'll just do like I did with my shotty and put it out of my mind until you surprise me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I entirely appreciate and relate to needing to take care of paying customers first. I am, however, seriously interested in this project. Something about the way my fingers work makes me allergic to leverguns, and a 444 Saiga would serve my big bore needs. No 45-70 Marlin for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaGroaner 2 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I entirely appreciate and relate to needing to take care of paying customers first. I am, however, seriously interested in this project. Something about the way my fingers work makes me allergic to leverguns, and a 444 Saiga would serve my big bore needs. No 45-70 Marlin for me. Same here and whenever you get around to it is fine. It just gives me that much more time to pay off Christmas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shotguncowboy 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Agreed. Very intersted in the project, but whenever. I use my Marlin .444 for hogs and absolutely love it, can't wait to get out there with the semi-auto. How much extra is the butt pad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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