UnidenStew 1 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 This may have been discussed here before, but I'm new and need to ask. Will a new Gali style, or other AK style forearm fit my Saiga 7.62X39 16" barrel without a lot of modification? Are they a simple retrofit or is there some procedure that needs to be done to install? Also, what would you recommend? Tapco, or other brand? I'm leaning toward the Gaili style, but I'm flexible at this point. Thanks for your patience and input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermiform 26 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 This may have been discussed here before, but I'm new and need to ask. Will a new Gali style, or other AK style forearm fit my Saiga 7.62X39 16" barrel without a lot of modification? Are they a simple retrofit or is there some procedure that needs to be done to install? Also, what would you recommend? Tapco, or other brand? I'm leaning toward the Gaili style, but I'm flexible at this point. Thanks for your patience and input. The Saiga forend guard doesn't use the traditional AK metal forearm retainer. So if you just went out and bought any AK forearm guard, it wouldn't fit because there is nothing the end of it to your rifle. Dinzag makes these for a Saiga but you must use a press and press the front site of your rifle to install them. In short, if you don't have a press and experience working with AKs, you can't put standard foregrips on your Saiga. There are some other work arounds, but they still intail a good bit of work. DONT WORRY. Tapco sells a nice Galil that you can use for your Saiga. It comes with that front end adapter to hold the guard still. You can also buy a rail kit for it and put accessory rails on it. You can even get it in OD green if you want. http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?id=19d5...ba-c129e3aa71e5 I have one on my x39 Saiga and I think it is well made. It is a simple drop in install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnidenStew 1 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) Thanks, Vermiform. I figured as much, but wasn't sure. The Tapco is the one for me, too. Edited December 13, 2006 by MacMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 For those who are shop-press declined, try a brass punch and a hammer to drive it off. (Remove the pins of course first) The brass will not deform the ruskie steel. You'll have to be crafty to balance everything and keep it aligned by yourself. A beer-buddy can work wonders. Try using a 1/2" diameter brass punch on the muzzle face and drive on the back of the FSB tower where it meets the barrel shroud with another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgillaspy 24 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 For those who are shop-press declined, try a brass punch and a hammer to drive it off.(Remove the pins of course first) The brass will not deform the ruskie steel. You'll have to be crafty to balance everything and keep it aligned by yourself. A beer-buddy can work wonders. Try using a 1/2" diameter brass punch on the muzzle face and drive on the back of the FSB tower where it meets the barrel shroud with another. Don't you still then need to do the same to the gas block? Then, how do you maintain alignment when you punch them back on? This seems to me to be the hardest part of the "true" of complete conversion. There seem to be easier alternatives to everything else, just not the foregrip! Other than the "Saiga Galil Foregrip" by Tapco. $60 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Yes, the gas block is the same. Make sure the sight and gas blocks aren't canted before you drive the pins in. If they are, rap them with a deadblow or rubber mallet. Super easy with a shop press. I've disassembled every model of Saiga with brass punches before I got a press. I've disassembled/reassembled more than 20 plus AK's. Some of them several times. Also removed & replaced RSB's & barrels. It's not as scary as it sounds. I tackled a parts kit first to harvest parts and applied to everything else. I use old broken drill bit shanks to tap the pins out with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Vermiform 26 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Yes, the gas block is the same. Make sure the sight and gas blocks aren't canted before you drive the pins in. If they are, rap them with a deadblow or rubber mallet. Super easy with a shop press. I've disassembled every model of Saiga with brass punches before I got a press. I've disassembled/reassembled more than 20 plus AK's. Some of them several times. Also removed & replaced RSB's & barrels. It's not as scary as it sounds. I tackled a parts kit first to harvest parts and applied to everything else. I use old broken drill bit shanks to tap the pins out with. Fuck all that, you need to make your own version of that Tapco Gali-grip adapter that works with all standard AK lower handguards. Then you can make out like a bandit selling them to us here. Tapco won't sell their adapters seperately. You could make one for x39 and .308, then we could use whatever uppers and lowers that we want to on our Saigas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) Yes, you are correct J. I suppose I could put some R&D time into it. I do have a bunch of these guys laying around... Edited December 14, 2006 by dinzag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kymasabe 1 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) Yes, you are correct J. I suppose I could put some R&D time into it. I do have a bunch of these guys laying around... Hmmm....Wazzat? What are you making now? Why don't I own one? Edited December 14, 2006 by Kymasabe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) That's a 2 piece shaft collar - a premade part that runs like $5. I bought a bunch of different sizes when I was trying to figure out a solution for my 308. I can machine the I.D. and O.D. and then weld to a retainer with the shroud & lever portion cut off. Probably needs a pointed set screw in the bottom to keep it from sliding forward. Edited December 14, 2006 by dinzag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Shweet homey! I love this place... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgillaspy 24 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 When you need it Beta Tested, send me one! I'd really like to try something like that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermiform 26 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 When you need it Beta Tested, send me one! I'd really like to try something like that! I would be interested in one for both of my rifles, x39 and 308. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 When you need it Beta Tested, send me one! I'd really like to try something like that! I would be interested in one for both of my rifles, x39 and 308. ditto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freightman 0 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 When you need it Beta Tested, send me one! I'd really like to try something like that! I would be interested in one for both of my rifles, x39 and 308. ditto Figure a price and I will send the money for two. get send me an email Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Well I dumped some chedda tonight & have some goodies on order. I'll have $25 into parts + whatever it takes to get them done. After the 1st I'll have some photos up. Gotta clean out the paid orders first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Well I dumped some chedda tonight & have some goodies on order.I'll have $25 into parts + whatever it takes to get them done. After the 1st I'll have some photos up. Gotta clean out the paid orders first. so what your telling me is don't go crazy and attempt to do the removing of pieces off my barrel yet... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermiform 26 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Well I dumped some chedda tonight & have some goodies on order.I'll have $25 into parts + whatever it takes to get them done. After the 1st I'll have some photos up. Gotta clean out the paid orders first. Woot!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) Edited December 20, 2006 by vjor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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