Ammo2Fm 1 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 (I have a Winchester model-70 super shadow) I am looking at buying the ultimate sniper stock by choate but I am confused on if mine is the short action or long because I dont have the gun here to measure it. By chance does anybody know if the 7mm WSM is short or long action. Also has anyone put this stock on a model-70 and is it worth a damn. Looks cool and appears to look comfortable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I know the Savage in that caliber is a long action... that's a pretty big round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Wait, NM, I dunno. I was thinking of the 7mm Rem Mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I would guess that is a SHORT ACTION... The long actions are for just that... LONG BULLETS... 30-06, 7mm magnum, etc..etc... ya know... bullets with a total length of like 3 1/2 - 4 inches give or take... the WSM cartridge as its name suggests is winchester SHORT magnum... and is a SHORT cartridge... and it would stand to reason... a short action... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preacher 0 Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Short Action http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/fea...etail.asp?ID=59 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) Same as the above. IIRC there are 3 basic action lengths: 1: Short action, ~308Win length and smaller 2: Long action, Longer than 308Win, ~30-06 Springfield length 3: Magnum. If they made bolt action elephant guns, they'd go here. Now, there are of course exceptions. The Savage "short" action is about as long as most everybody else's long action (and the savage long action has no problem with magnums). To answer your question: 7WSM is a short action round. Edited January 1, 2007 by Rusty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy_stikx 0 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I thought .308 winchester fit into the long action realm, as it's only a couple mm's shorter than 8mm Mauser (both fit in the same mauser 98k actions). I could be wrong, but I've generally seen .308 win and up as long action, .223/ 7.62x39 and shorter as short action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 It's a short...nice gun too! I almost bought one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I thought .308 winchester fit into the long action realm, as it's only a couple mm's shorter than 8mm Mauser (both fit in the same mauser 98k actions). I could be wrong, but I've generally seen .308 win and up as long action, .223/ 7.62x39 and shorter as short action. Every thing I've ever seen says that the standard short/long action split is between 308(7.62x51) and 30'06 (7.62x63). The standard short action can be used for most anything based on the 308 case and smaller, down to rounds based on the 222 with minimal-to-no modification. The long action will handle all of this, plus rounds about the size (OAL) of the 30'06. The magnum actions (I just learned this) are typically based on the 375 H&H cartridge overall length (OAL). There's nothing stopping you from building a 222 varmint rifle off of a magnum action, except the weight and ginormous bolt throw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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