Home Guard

[Gaddis 1,689]

you keep talking about our enemys, i assume you are talking about all muslum's, every where. do you think the US can take on a religion of 2 billion, and the worlds goverments, who might have a problem with our indemscrimtly killind there citizans for there religion?

Actually, I don't really care what the other worlds goverments think about how the United States decides to handle it's problems with radical Muslims (and I don't see why other Americans get so worked up about it either). We can either handle it in one of two ways, we can try to become bosom buddies with them (like our liberal U.N. advisors the French would try and do), hoping that if we kiss their asses long and hard enough that they'll suddenly have a change of heart and then leave us alone (an idea that worked so well for them against the invading Germans), or we can take the other extreme and follow the Germans point of view (who also seem to be keen now in counselling us with our wartime troubles), and just go in there with all our military might and bomb the $hit out of them and then force them to adopt our point of view under penalty of death if they don't comply.

 

I don't even see why all these other world countries are getting themselves all worked up with what the United States is trying to do. Al Queida and all the other stupid radical Muslim groups are so fecking dumb that instead of concentrating all its efforts in fighting the U.S. and it's allies they instead go into other neutral countries and start up their terrorist bombings in them trying to stir up shite.

 

If anything, all these ungrateful, liberal, bastion of a$$holes countries should be thankful that the United States is at least trying to do something against the extremist Muslim hordes trying to kill them.

 

I don't know if I have a greater hate (or pity?) for them (the liberal, a$$hole, western cultures who don't help us out) or the extremists trying to kill them in the name of religon.

 

Maybe Michael Moore is somewhat right. Peacenic, liberal type American people (and countries like them with their heads stuck in the sand) really are stupid?

[Bvamp 604]

do i have the right to shoot mofo DEAD in the middle of a terrorist, or otherwise harshly crminal act or not?

[emclean 0]

Actually, I don't really care what the other worlds goverments think about how the United States decides to handle it's problems with radical Muslims (and I don't see why other Americans get so worked up about it either). We can either handle it in one of two ways, we can try to become bosom buddies with them (like our liberal U.N. advisors the French would try and do), hoping that if we kiss their asses long and hard enough that they'll suddenly have a change of heart and then leave us alone (an idea that worked so well for them against the invading Germans), or we can take the other extreme and follow the Germans point of view (who also seem to be keen now in counselling us with our wartime troubles), and just go in there with all our military might and bomb the $hit out of them and then force them to adopt our point of view under penalty of death if they don't comply.

the problem with the second option is that you push the non-radical muslume into being redical. if they are gonna be killed for there faith, why not take some of there attackers with them? is there no middle groung? we eather have to bindover, or try to kill them all?

[Gaddis 1,689]

Actually, I don't really care what the other worlds goverments think about how the United States decides to handle it's problems with radical Muslims (and I don't see why other Americans get so worked up about it either). We can either handle it in one of two ways, we can try to become bosom buddies with them (like our liberal U.N. advisors the French would try and do), hoping that if we kiss their asses long and hard enough that they'll suddenly have a change of heart and then leave us alone (an idea that worked so well for them against the invading Germans), or we can take the other extreme and follow the Germans point of view (who also seem to be keen now in counselling us with our wartime troubles), and just go in there with all our military might and bomb the $hit out of them and then force them to adopt our point of view under penalty of death if they don't comply.

the problem with the second option is that you push the non-radical muslume into being redical. if they are gonna be killed for there faith, why not take some of there attackers with them? is there no middle groung? we eather have to bindover, or try to kill them all?

Well then, (as harsh as it sounds), maybe it is nigh time that the United States and all it's U.N. allies stop feeling all politically correct and touchy-feeley towards them and warn them the next time they try something stupid, we *ALL* will stand behind a swift and deadly nuclear retaliation against them.

 

Remember, the Japanese were considered fanatical during WWII, and see how the two atomic bombs dropped on them changed their aggresive tendencies right quick.

 

Besides, the head radical Muslims of these orgainizations (like Osama and that other fatmouthed troublemaking cleric) are basically yellow-bellied cowards who really don't want to die for the cause they think they are fighting for themselves. They get stupid, poor young brainwashed street urchins to do their dirty work for them where being dead would probably be an improvement while they sit safely back on their asses in a cave or safehouse somewhere praising Allah. You do notice how reluctant Osama and his type are to actually strap explosives to their own bodies to be used as bombs for their "cause" and how they are always strangely absent from the passenger lists aboard planes that are used as weapons of terror (even for flights in the middle east).

 

I bet one atomic blast anywhere near him and that big pu$$y would crumble.

[Bvamp 604]

i hear ya gaddis....im right with you on that one. one thing though....you dont think a nuclear blast would up the stakes or make many more people absolutely hate us all? i for one dont really care, if you ask me. then again, we could just stop all exports of food.....that might have a greater effect than a nuke.......

[Siagalova 0]

The muslims would NEVER buddy up to us. It's part of there myrterdom. They willl always hate us being anywhere near there little peice of SAND. The thought of us putting a government in there land, really gets them bent out of shape!

 

Infedels, origonaly meant non- beleivers (in allah), now it means Americans, or outsiders.

 

we caught a a lot of flack, from the other countries, for backing some for the opossing countries to USSR - and getting out too early. I say we show them that we don't care ---about rolling into your country and taking revenge, when the event warants--- but get outa there when done. throw some aid to the civillians that had there lives changed, maybe. but to stay there is idiocy! what are we doin'?

what is motivating that?

My tin hat will make me think this or that (oil) - but the humanitarian thing that's being passed off to us, I just don't buy. whatever the reason, in the mean time money is being poured in like water, every minute of every day.

[emclean 0]

Well then, (as harsh as it sounds), maybe it is nigh time that the United States and all it's U.N. allies stop feeling all politically correct and touchy-feeley towards them and warn them the next time they try something stupid, we *ALL* will stand behind a swift and deadly nuclear retaliation against them.

so you are OK with nuking all the muslems? would that include those living in the US? or those serving in the armed forces?

 

Remember, the Japanese were considered fanatical during WWII, and see how the two atomic bombs dropped on them changed their aggresive tendencies right quick.

you do rember that Japan was rulde by an emperor, right, a living diety, we had to change ONE mind about the war. if you go after any country with terrorists, or i mean muslems, we wold have to suspoend out laws.

[Siagalova 0]

I hate to sound like a broken record, I'm glad emclean brought it up:

 

The muslims over there ARE the equivilant of snake handlers, or David Korecsh. not the norm!

 

this is my theory:

when wind blows over sand, lots of positive ions get generated. Positive ions are things that irritate mamals (us), ei. extra protons- or positivly charged material.

I'm not even joking about that either. (when water passes over air it creates negative ions, plants and animals- us- are more apt to grow and have a better time of things, general health wise. that's why the beach, and things like water falls, rain, have such good conotations to us).

 

plus they got heat, and no one around beleives in ice cubes! or drinking, or pornography. I mean really, I'd be pissed too! maybe that's the reason for acting like rabid dogs. maybe we should send them some sprinklers! teach them how to make lemonade. you know, I bet they'd really appreaciate a slip'n'slide.

[G O B 3,516]

Saigalover-You may be on to something.Maybe if we trade bikinies for burkas(AND barrels of NAIR for barrels of oil) the middle east will FEEL THE LOVE!!!

 

G O B

[Gaddis 1,689]

Bvamp,

 

I don't really care anymore at this point either if any more countries start to hate us either. The overly generous United States has always been the one for other countries to bad mouth and crap on (unless they need something from us, that is), like the pretty and friendly girl in high school who was hated by some just because she was pretty and friendly. I'd be more than happy if the good old U.S. would become isolationist (which will never happen BTW) and just sit back and watch as the rest of the world goes down the crapper, which it eventually would (waiting for our greedy and whiny (so far!) european allies to finally lend a hand or some aid).

 

emclean,

 

No, I never said I was for nuking all Muslims. I think (that besides for the sleeper cells), that a true U.S. hating radical Muslim would never be caught dead in the "infidel" United States, much less fighting for it's bloodthirsty and power hungry military. If there were to be actual "radical Muslims" living over here who truly despised the United States, I say "screw them" send them back home, and then nuke the entire area (including that Muslim Sgt. serving in the 101st).

 

Besides, emperor or not in charge over there, once the skin starts sloughing off from radiation sickness and burns, I bet the outlook of "let's attack America again" would still change.

 

Siagalover,

 

I bet they'd like the slip-n-slide idea up until the point one of them rams his weiner on the inevitable gas line access pipe that's sticking up in most yards while sliding down it. Then we'd really be at war!

[Gaddis 1,689]

What I think I'm trying to say here (and please help me understand if I'm seeing things wrong) is *WHY* in the f**k are all our allies so horrified at what the United States is doing going over there and kicking some well deserved ass in Afganistan while there seems to be little or *NO* horror at the fact that these same cowards innocently killed 3,000 mixed race and religon human beings over here (and it wasn't even a honorable way in which they did it?).

 

How come there seems to be no "liberal indignation" over that cowardly act, hmm?

[emclean 0]

*WHY* in the f**k are all our allies so horrified at what the United States is doing going over there and kicking some well deserved ass in Afganistan while there seems to be little or *NO* horror at the fact that these same cowards innocently killed 3,000 mixed race and religon human beings over here

mostly they are pissed off about Iraq, not Afganistan. there was a direct link to Afganistan, and 9/11. the likk is thin/ not there/ whatever others want to argue, the thery that the US will attack anyone we think is a threat is what has them worried.

 

No, I never said I was for nuking all Muslims.

Well then, (as harsh as it sounds), maybe it is nigh time that the United States and all it's U.N. allies stop feeling all politically correct and touchy-feeley towards them and warn them the next time they try something stupid, we *ALL* will stand behind a swift and deadly nuclear retaliation against them.

how were you going to sepporate the radical Muslims and the non-radical Muslims living within say a 1/4 mile of each other?

[Bvamp 604]

gaddis: exactly. i still think we need to mass produce MOABs instead of using a nuke.

 

people get upset when they are shot for being different than others. people also tend to get upset when they dont have enough to eat, and have like nothing material in life to call thier own. people also tend to get upset when they live in the hot dusty desert.

 

if we dont shoot them and tell them to do whatever they want within a set of laws, then feed them, pay them to go irrigate the land and fertilize it so they too can have grass and trees and things like food and stuff, then they might all go build houses with air conditioning in them and forget they were ever mad at us. most of them are so poor and have had such rough lives, i dont think they really care about much anymore anyway. I know I sure wouldnt.

 

taking god over species just isnt the right thing to do to each other, and ya'll know it.....

[Siagalova 0]

AW, look how much we've grown! I think it's time for a group hug!

 

I think they'd just as happy if we just left them alone. Maybe, that's what they SAY they want.

But I'd bet, some time down the line, somethin'd blow up later (of ours) - Because we're the "EVIL" sinners or whatever, spreading Ideoligy that isn't their own. you know what I'm sayin'? I'm with gaddis in that: I think the reality is they are just jealous too, and kinda using the excuse of their religion to put their ego in a higher place - 'cause jealousy is for girls or somethin' (know what I mean?).

 

Somebody went over there and treid to do a "what were they thinking" type documentary - and that's kinda what the feeling was. Once they were the center of the world, started modern cities, invented language - now no one cares, and to boot america is flaunting it's power and money. Basically wanting to blame somebody for there woes.

 

We're in it now - we have to help them out. I'd rather not pay for it, but that choice was made for me.

[Gaddis 1,689]

how were you going to sepporate the radical Muslims and the non-radical Muslims living within say a 1/4 mile of each other?

Well, being the big evil warmongering bastard that I am, I would spread a rumor that Al Queida was successful in killing another 3,000 of those "Infidel" Americans, and then napalm and gunship everyone who came out on the street to dance & celebrate that news.

 

BTW emclean, do you think that if anyone living over there who truly hated the United States and had access to a nuclear warhead would stop and actually contemplate if they should use it or not just because they might kill a few loyal Muslims who decided to live over here? Why should we being westerners be the passive ones all the time?

 

if we dont shoot them and tell them to do whatever they want within a set of laws, then feed them, pay them to go irrigate the land and fertilize it so they too can have grass and trees and things like food and stuff, then they might all go build houses with air conditioning in them and forget they were ever mad at us. most of them are so poor and have had such rough lives, i dont think they really care about much anymore anyway. I know I sure wouldnt.

 

Sounds great, Bvamp. But then I bet one of our U.N. allies would stir up the crap again by saying that there goes "evil" America trying to force our standard of living on those poor people who really don't want to live that way (being totally content living as poor goatherders), but are afraid of getting us riled up. With that fact pointed out, it wouldn't take much for some exteremist cleric over there to get the masses fired up and hating us again.

 

Maybe you guys are right, and we should have just left them alone to fight and kill amongst themselves. Unfortunately, we're in the fight for the long haul now.

 

How do the last lines of that Superjoint Ritual song "F**k your Enemy" go now? Die when you can do no more damage.

[emclean 0]

BTW emclean, do you think that if anyone living over there who truly hated the United States and had access to a nuclear warhead would stop and actually contemplate if they should use it or not just because they might kill a few loyal Muslims who decided to live over here? Why should we being westerners be the passive ones all the time?

no, i thikn they would use it in a heart beat.

passave? how about being better than they are? are you OK with our goverment using the same tactics as teh people we are fighting?

[Gaddis 1,689]

I think being "better than they are" ends after they have killed 3,000 of your fellow innocent countrymen and then brag about it on television.

 

How much more will we be willing to put up with until the next time they try something?

[emclean 0]

How much more will we be willing to put up with until the next time they try something?

and it is ok to do the same as they do? you have never responded to who you will pick out the SOB's responsable from the rest of the population, and to me that sounds like attacking inicents, whitch is what happoned to us on 9/11. so is it ok aslond as they are not your country men, or is it wrong to attack incents?

[Gaddis 1,689]

Jeezus emclean, you're starting to sound like a liberal soccer mom.

 

I already told you I would start a false news report on one of the middle eastern news programs (you know, the ones where they are always happy to show captured foreigners getting their heads chopped off on) saying that Al Queida has just been successful in killing another 5,000 "infidel" Americans (that number should give them a real woody ), and then nape and rocket & cluster bomb anyone who comes out on the street to dance and celebrate that fact.

 

That's one of the ways you sort out the gooduns from the baddies.

 

Actually, (all joking aside), I don't really think that anyone from that part of the world is really truly fond of us "westerners" anyway (and we'd probably be better off without them). So, (like the old Airborne shirt used to say (that you hopefully should be familiar with (unless you are are wearing your new PC "visualize word peace" t-shirt (one that I have never seen Osama wearing personally), I say "Kill them all" and let Allah (or however s/he goes by over there sort them all out).

 

 

Or we could be truly cruel and evil and send the Dixie Chicks and Sheryl Crow to live over there permanently.

[Bvamp 604]

we could sponsor a gay pride rally in najaf? LOL kill two birds with one stone, with that one....

[Siagalova 0]

OR .....all those "Home makeover, quere eye........" could be taped from there.......gees the The learnig channel never used to be the gay channel!

funnny, Bvamp!

 

If we weren't over there 24/7, maybe they'd start to fight themselves again!

 

- When you get a bunch of irritated people

- who have no orderly enforcement,

- and TONS of arms given to them by EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY in the last 15 years, they (AK's) have to be cents on the dollar there (seriously $250 is prob. a year's wages), you're not a man unless you have one there.

- Kids have grown up learning how to to kill and be killed and are now adults

(death isn't something hidden, like it is to us - the dead get cleaned up right away, here) THERE'S GOING TO BE HATE AND DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE!

 

we should just get the hell outta there! break down the cells when detected, but do we need to be so blatent? showing our faces and military all the friggin' time? that's what gets them all broken up.

 

even the non-radicles can see that osama and the bunch are getting what they deserve, normal farmers may not like it but can understand that some things have reprocussions. ( I was watching about osama and the taliban last night on history chn. - the Towers are a legend that the radicles have been talking about hitting for the last 12-15 years now). when deserved hitt'm and hitt'm HARD, but then get the hell outa there. They seriously don't understand our "Humanitarianism" (me either, really).

 

for the amount of money gotten from bush and cheney 75 million (conservativly) we could've started the infrastructure for hydrogen fueled cars. there are more things that turn a crank than people know - french fry grease, veg. oil, WEED SEED oil! there would be NO REASON IN HELL to even be conserned with those folks if we started weening ourselves off oil (crude). 1/3 of the worlds consumption. sad is what it is! running around in 1 hundred year old technology.

that's the whole DEAL, right there! our problems would be TOTALLY SOLVED.

 

It was said ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL, that just before all of this (iraq), that the comp. that owns CHEVERON wanted to run a pipeline from suadi to the ocean through one of those countries (iraq or afgan) but couldn't buy off all the little tribes on the way. (no conspiracy, or tin hat).

[Bvamp 604]

all i know is my material estimates on various construction supplies have doubled since we went into iraq. now i dont mind helping out the people like the afghans, and i even dont mind us trying to help out the iraqis, but....when its doubling my costs at work, i want some form of friggin gratitude. they dont know WHAT freedom is in iraq, and they dont know what a normal life is. i can understand that. but what do you do? that is the real question. we SHOULD be there, but what the hell do we do for them NOW to help them have decent lives there and conduct thier own affairs in an orderly fashion. its a crappy situation, and its getting crappier by the day. im all for putting a bullet in each and every person's head that wants to say that mine or even thier god isnt the true one and they should die....but what about the rest of the population. what of the 90% of the population that doesnt want that? it must really suck living in fear.....

[emclean 0]

Actually, (all joking aside), I don't really think that anyone from that part of the world is really truly fond of us "westerners" anyway (and we'd probably be better off without them). So, (like the old Airborne shirt used to say (that you hopefully should be familiar with (unless you are are wearing your new PC "visualize word peace" t-shirt (one that I have never seen Osama wearing personally), I say "Kill them all" and let Allah (or however s/he goes by over there sort them all out).

like i said you are sounding just like them, if they dont agree with us then they need to die.

[Siagalova 0]

here's another thing I was thinking about (actually the show touched on it).

 

Pakistan, is structured kinda the same way as afganistan. tribal rule is pretty common in some areas. Osamamomma, payed off leaders (tribal) in the mountains close to pakistan to let him have safe harbor. when all along there gov. was claiming cooperation with us. the tribal leaders would take our money and show us where they lead osama, but take us the wrong way or give us false info.

some thing like that, switching of sorts.

 

if osama gets a movement in that country, OR his radicle army moves there, I'm not sure the "official " pakistany gov. would be able to fend off a seige! it happens over there ALL THE TIME. 2 or 3 in the last 2 decades, in the region.

The pakistanies have NUCLEAR weapons!!! I guess we let them 'cause india has'm. This has been the dream of the radicles for a long time too (as well as the trade center)! the cia intel's that were on last night, are very concerned about this.

 

I thought it was an interesting point.

on the same reasoning: This is the very reason prison guards don't wear guns!!!!!!

so there's no way any one can get there hands on one.

I don't think there's much point to that whole speech - interesting though. they'd use it or sell it to someone that would - this IS fact. ..........the sky is falling.........the sky is falling ...

Edited August 24, 2004 by Siagalova

[Gaddis 1,689]

like i said you are sounding just like them, if they dont agree with us then they need to die.

Only when they try and drop a skyscraper or two on me when I'm peacefully trying to eat a hot dog on the street outside the addresses formerly known as #1 & #2 World Trade Center.

[Gaddis 1,689]

we could sponsor a gay pride rally in najaf? LOL kill two birds with one stone, with that one....

Heh, I wonder if anyone's busy spelunking in Osama's "cave" with him being in hiding for so long?

 

Especially since I don't think there's much room for his extra goat and camel harem in the tunnel he finds himself in right now.

[emclean 0]

Only when they try and drop a skyscraper or two on me when I'm peacefully trying to eat a hot dog on the street outside the addresses formerly known as #1 & #2 World Trade Center.

of corse, sorry if 100 or so people who clame a religion did that, by all means it is ok to kill them all.

 

remember when you " then nape and rocket & cluster bomb anyone who comes out on the street to dance and celebrate" the death aint just in the street.

[Gaddis 1,689]

of corse, sorry if 100 or so people who clame a religion did that, by all means it is ok to kill them all.

 

remember when you " then nape and rocket & cluster bomb anyone who comes out on the street to dance and celebrate" the death aint just in the street.

Got to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette. Sometimes civillian casualities are a sad byproduct of dropping live ordinance. Besides, as Clint Eastwood would probably have said "if they didn't want to get any flaming napalm on them, they should have hid themselves better instead of sitting by the window watching the festivities" (and anyway, they shouldn't have decorated our city streets with their chicken-shit handiwork).

 

Besides, I didn't see the radical Al Queda Muslims worry too much if they killed any Muslims crashing those two jetliners into the two skyscrapers in NYC. I thought Muslims killing (especially unarmed) Muslims in the Quoran was a big no-no?

 

FYI, I was planning on only using "smart" napalm, rockets and cluster bombs anyway.